O. Zangief (ST)

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Old Zangief's portrait in Super Turbo

Introduction

Picking Old Zangief

To select O.Zangief, choose Zangief and then press ← → → → Jab/Fierce, pressing Short simultaneously with the punch button for the alternate color.

Normal Secondary
Zangief-old1.gif Zangief-old2.gif

--Born2SPD

New & Old Versions Comparison

To select O.Zangief, choose Zangief and then press ← → → → Jab/Fierce, pressing Short simultaneously with the punch button for the alternate color.

Here is the list of differences:

  • Obvious stuff: O.Zangief can not tech throws, does not have the Fierce/Strong hops, Green Hand and Super;
  • O.Zangief's empty jumps have fatter hurtboxes;
  • O.Zangief has some differences in some of his normals:
    • Close Standing Jab is a bit worse (does not has that improved hitbox on the first active frame, the other active frames are a bit worse and has a smaller activation range);
    • Close/Far Standing Strong can be special canceled and do a little more damage;
    • Close/Far Standing Fierce do a little more damage;
    • Crouching Fierce do a little more damage;
    • Close Standing Short have worse priority, but this is meaningless;
    • Far Standing Short can be special canceled;
    • Far Standing Forward has better anti-air priority, but worse ground priority and horizontal range;
    • Close Standing Roundhouse do a little more damage;
    • Far Standing Roundhouse has very poor priority but can be special canceled and do a little more damage;
    • Crouching Roundhouse can be special canceled and do a little more damage, this is nice;
    • Most of his aerial attacks have fatter body hurtboxes, including his splash and headbutts. They hardly alter the air to air priority though;
    • Neutral Jumping Fierce do a little more damage;
    • Diagonal Jumping Fierce do a little more damage;
    • Neutral Jumping Roundhouse do a little more damage;
    • Diagonal Jumping Roundhouse do a little more damage;
  • O.Zangief Knee Drops do more damage;
  • O.Zangief has some differences in his Lariats:
    • Both Punch and Kick versions have a different head hurtbox during the start-up frames: better horizontal priority and different vertical priority; that last one allows O.Zangief to beat Shoto's Tatsus from a crouched position with 100% success while with N.Zangief you actually need to time it right or lariat will be beaten. On the other way, it will be worse against Vega(Claw)'s Wall Dives. The better horizontal priority helps against T.Hawk to counter his dives during the 7 first frames easier. All in all it's a little buff/nerf for O.Zangief in these matchups, but it's basically the same really;
    • Kick version does not have the improved foot hurtbox which lets N.Zangief beat some supers and pass through low Tiger shots. This is vital and totally compromises O.Zangief in that match-up;

In the WORLD version of the arcade ST there is a bug in O.Zangief’s Roundhouse Suplex, if done as reversal: will grab the opponent from any range if he is throwable, even from full screen away. Perhaps, if someone mastered this, it could make Zangief vs E.Honda a fair match or something. Just think, blocked HHS -> Reversal Suplex, madness. (This is a bug, though, so you should not take this seriously)

O.Zangief can special cancel some normals that N.Zangief can not, but that's it. The only reason most people consider using O.Zangief is so you don't have to worry about an accidental hop or green hand. The tools you lose by picking O.Gief (worse normals/kick lariat, loss of throw tech, green hand mobility and super) is absolutely not worth it. Stick to N.Zangief; only use O.Zangief for casual play, or if you want to troll someone with his Roundhouse Suplex bug.

Moves Analysis

Disclaimer: To better understand the diagrams, read this.

Normal Moves

Ground Normals

  • Close Standing Jab: (Base max activation range: 40)
Damage 14[1] / 14[1] OZangief stcljab1&7.png OZangief stcljab2.png OZangief stcljab3.png OZangief stcljab4.png OZangief stcljab5.png OZangief stcljab6.png OZangief stcljab1&7.png
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel Yes
Special Cancel Yes / No
Frame Advantage -6 / -4
Frame Count 2 2 2 2 4 4 5
Simplified 1 + 2 4 15

Zangief does a knife hand strike from above his head until towards. O.Zangief's version is not as good as N.Zangief's, since it has worse hitboxes as well as activation range, but it can still be considered a good anti air. The first active part is important because it is O.Zangief's only ground response to Ken's Jumping Fierce. The second part has no specific use because it leaves O.Zangief at frame disadvantage so limit the usage of this move as an anti air only.

  • Far Standing Jab:
Damage 16[1] OZangief stfarjab1&3.png OZangief stfarjab2.png OZangief stfarjab1&3.png
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel Yes
Special Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +4
Frame Count 2 4 5
Simplified 1 + 2 4 5

Zangief performs a fast straight punch that can be canceled into itself. This happens to be a very damaging Jab, it even does the strong sound when it hits. Unlike most character's rapid fire Jabs, Zangief's Standing Jab should not be used to beat advance moves like Blanka's rolls or E.Honda's Headbutt. It is, however, very important when facing Boxer, because it is Zangief's only reliable way to deal with his Low Rushes. It also beats Cammy's Roundhouse Cannon Drills and trades with Dictator's Scissor Kicks. Other than that, this move is better suited as a poke (e.g. beats Claw's Crouching Jab/Strong and Dictator's Standing Forward from the right range) or as a tick (e.g. allows you to tick Dhalsim from a more comfortable range). But keep in mind that this move hits high and will whiff on most characters if they are crouching. Boxer, Dhalsim, O.Fei Long, Sagat, T.Hawk and another Zangief are the characters which are vulnerable to this move even when they are crouching. This move can also be used in footsies as a whiff to force the opponent to get stuck in the block animation, allowing you to attempt a walk in SPD.

  • Crouching Jab:
Damage 4[1] OZangief crjab1.png OZangief crjab2.png
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel Yes
Special Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +8
Frame Count 3 5
Simplified 1 + 3 5

Crouching spear hand strike. This move does very low damage, but it is your most important ticking move and can also be used into hit confirm combos such as Crouching Jab (n times) linked into Standing Short or Crouching Roundhouse. It can beat a lot of different moves like E.Honda's Headbutt and HHS, Blanka's Beast Rolls and Fierce Slide, Dictator's Scissor Kicks and some varied normals. This move has no recovery frames which allows it to be used as a safe tick/meaty.

  • Close/Far Standing Strong:
Damage 24[2] OZangief stclstrng1 stfarstrng1.png OZangief stclstrng2 stfarstrng2.png OZangief stclstrng3 stfarstrng3.png OZangief stclstrng4 stfarstrng4.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes*
Frame Advantage +10
Frame Count 2 2 3 5
Simplified 1 + 4 3 5

Relatively fast horizontal knife hand strike. Doing it close or far will result in the exact same move. This attack is used in most of his combos because of the solid damage and the fairly good frame advantage which allows Zangief to link it to most of his normals. It can also be used as a poke just like Standing Jab because it has very similar hitboxes with the plus of the added damage and stun. Note that with O.Zangief this move can be considered a little better since you can move freely and poke at the same time (i.e. a hop won't come out). Be aware though that move is not as spammable as the Standing Jab because it has a slower start up and it can be more easily stuffed before becoming active due to premature projected hurtboxes. It also whiffs on most characters if they are crouching. O.Zangief happens to be able to Special Cancel this move, but it does not add much into his potential. Also, O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

  • Crouching Strong:
Damage 24[1] OZangief crstrng1&5 crfrc1&5.png OZangief crstrng2&4 crfrc2&4.png OZangief crstrng3.png OZangief crstrng2&4 crfrc2&4.png OZangief crstrng1&5 crfrc1&5.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Frame Advantage +1
Frame Count 3 3 8 4 5
Simplified 1 + 6 8 9

A crouching straight punch that hits around the stomach, with moderate recovery. It can be used used as a poke or to trade damage with some moves. It also excels as a tick into Atomic Suplex for two reasons: leaves Zangief at perfect range (outside most characters normal throw range but inside Roundhouse Atomic Suplex range) and it leaves Zangief at one frame of advantage so a Running Bear Grab will rarely come out.

  • Close/Far Standing Fierce:
Damage 30[2] OZangief stclfrc1&7 stfarfrc1&7.png OZangief stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc2&6.png OZangief stclfrc3 stfarfrc3.png OZangief stclfrc4 stfarfrc4.png OZangief stclfrc5 stfarfrc5.png OZangief stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc2&6.png OZangief stclfrc1&7 stfarfrc1&7.png
Stun 10~16
Stun Timer 80
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Frame Advantage -13
Frame Count 3 3 6 10 8 6 5
Simplified 1 + 6 6 29

A powerful straight punch with very long recovery. Doing it close or far will result in the exactly same move. Has a nice damage and dizzy potential. It can be linked from a Standing Strong for dizzy combos. It also can be used as a trade anti air. In most cases you should avoid this move though, the exaggerated recovery kills any viable use. O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

  • Crouching Fierce:
Damage 30[2] OZangief crstrng1&5 crfrc1&5.png OZangief crstrng2&4 crfrc2&4.png OZangief crfrc3.png OZangief crstrng2&4 crfrc2&4.png OZangief crstrng1&5 crfrc1&5.png
Stun 10~16
Stun Timer 80
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Frame Advantage -9
Frame Count 3 3 8 10 13
Simplified 1 + 6 8 23

Another crouching straight punch that hits around the stomach, but with much longer recovery than the Strong version. It works decently as an anti air against certain moves (e.g. T.Hawk's Jumping Jab, Fei Long's Jumping Jab, Blanka's Jumping Jab and Strong, Vega(claw)'s Dive). It works decently as a trade move against E.Honda's HHS or as a punish for Shoto's Tatsus, but not as a poke since it has very long recovery. O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

  • Close Standing Short: (Base max activation range: 32)
Damage 18[1] OZangief stclshrt1&6.png OZangief stclshrt2.png OZangief stclshrt3.png OZangief stclshrt4.png OZangief stclshrt5.png OZangief stclshrt1&6.png
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Frame Advantage +0
Frame Count 3 2 2 8 4 1
Simplified 1 + 7 8 5

Zangief's does a weak knee attack. Ticking move for dummies. It is Zangief's easiest move to use as tick because of the fairly long duration. Leaves Zangief at optimal range to tick into Super and at no frame advantage or disadvantage which makes it a good move to tick into Atomic Suplex (i.e. if the normal move wasn't meaty timed then a Running Bear Grab will never come out). Zangief has better moves though and once you get better at the art of ticking you should never use this move again.

  • Far Standing Short:
Damage 18[1] OZangief stfarshrt1 stfarfrwrd1&5.png OZangief stfarshrt2.png OZangief stfarshrt3.png
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes*
Frame Advantage +8
Frame Count 2 2 5
Simplified 1 + 4 5

Zangief performs a low hitting kick. One of Zangief's most important normals as it is Zangief's best standing tick. During the opponents wake up it is a killer: you can mix between tick into SPD or linked sweep to give your opponent extra trouble when trying to reverse. Also, this move has no recovery frames which allows it to be used as a safe tick/meaty. Master the safe tick pattern and most match ups will be a lot easier. Watch out for reversal tatsus or upkicks when using this against a knocked down opponent. Strangely, O.Zangief has the ability to Special Cancel this move.

  • Crouching Short:
Damage 18[1] OZangief crshrt1&3 crfrwrd1&3 crrh1&4.png OZangief crshrt2.png OZangief crshrt1&3 crfrwrd1&3 crrh1&4.png
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +2
Frame Count 3 4 7
Simplified 1 + 3 4 7

Fast crouching side kick with poor priority. It's Zangief's best ground move to tick into Super. It's also OK as a tick into his other grabs. Has Special Cancel properties which allows O.Zangief to combo it into a Lariat, but Crouching Forward is better suited for that. You can also cancel a Running Bear Grab out of it, which will usually connect but doesn't do much damage. It can also be used in footsies once in a while to lure the opponent into punishing a Crouching Roundhouse, since it animates the same but recovers a lot faster.

  • Close Standing Forward: (Base max activation range: 56)
Damage 24[1] OZangief stclfrwrd1&5.png OZangief stclfrwrd2.png OZangief stclfrwrd3.png OZangief stclfrwrd4.png OZangief stclfrwrd1&5.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Frame Advantage +5
Frame Count 3 3 4 4 5
Simplified 1 + 6 4 9

Zangief does a front kick with moderate start up and recovery. Does not have any specific use that I can think of. It is too slow to be used in combos, the only practical normal to link into is the Far Standing Jab, but it's not too good because it whiffs against the majority of the cast if they're crouching. It is too fast to be used as a tick into Suplex, it can be used as a tick into SPD but you have better options for that.

  • Far Standing Forward:
Damage 24[1] OZangief stfarshrt1 stfarfrwrd1&5.png OZangief stfarfrwrd2.png OZangief stfarfrwrd3.png OZangief stfarfrwrd4.png OZangief stfarshrt1 stfarfrwrd1&5.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Frame Advantage +5
Frame Count 3 3 4 4 5
Simplified 1 + 6 4 9

Semi-circular middle kick. O.Zangief's version has less range and doesn't hit as low, so it's not very useful. Probably the move I miss the most in O.Zangief.

  • Crouching Forward:
Damage 24[1] OZangief crshrt1&3 crfrwrd1&3 crrh1&4.png OZangief crfrwrd2.png OZangief crshrt1&3 crfrwrd1&3 crrh1&4.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +3
Frame Count 3 6 9
Simplified 1 + 3 6 9

Crouching side kick. Better damage and priority than Crouching Short, but longer recovery. It has Special Cancel properties just like the former so you can cancel into Lariat or Running Bear Grab. Cross-up Fierce splash, Crouching Forward into Kick Lariat is a particularly hot combo. It can also be used as a tick into SPD or Suplex, but you usually have better options for that, unless you're specifically looking for the medium block stun.

  • Close Standing Roundhouse: (Base max activation range: 56)
Damage 30[2] + 4[2] OZangief stclrh1.png OZangief stclrh2.png OZangief stclrh3.png OZangief stclrh4.png OZangief stclrh5.png OZangief stclrh6.png OZangief stclrh7.png OZangief stclrh8.png OZangief stclrh9.png OZangief stclrh10.png
Stun 10~16 + 1~7
Stun Timer 80 + 70
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Frame Advantage -23 / -17(-18)
Frame Count 2 2 2 3 6 8 8 10 8 5
Simplified 1 + 9 6 8 31

Weird butterfly kick that hits twice. It is a quite useless move. It can hit twice from close range and it is the most damaging normal Zangief have, but it has long start-up and recovery. The second hit has a decent anti-air priority but the situations where you can use it like that are limited and the use is often shadowed by Close Standing Jab (i.e. worse start up, does less damage and has worse priority). O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

  • Far Standing Roundhouse:
Damage 30[2] OZangief stfarrh1&3.png OZangief stfarrh2.png OZangief stfarrh1&3.png
Stun 10~16
Stun Timer 80
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes*
Frame Advantage +3
Frame Count 4 8 11
Simplified 1 + 4 8 11

Zangief performs a high side kick. O.Zangief's version has mediocre priority so it can't really be used as a anti air like N.Zangief does. With O.Zangief this move is only good for shenanigans: whiff it into SPD after the opponent wakes up from a knockdown. Also, O.Zangief can special cancel this move but this is of no help. O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

  • Crouching Roundhouse:
Damage 30[2] OZangief crshrt1&3 crfrwrd1&3 crrh1&4.png OZangief crrh2.png OZangief crrh3.png OZangief crshrt1&3 crfrwrd1&3 crrh1&4.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 130
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes*
Frame Advantage +1
Frame Count 4 8 12 1
Simplified 1 + 4 8 13

Zangief's sweep kick. Animates the same as Zangief's other crouching kicks, but with longer recovery. This is a pretty awesome move, with good recovery for a Roundhouse sweep and deceptive reach. It can be linked into well, comes out relatively fast, does good damage, has decent recovery, not to say the precious knockdown which can lead into ticking mix-ups or safe jumps. This move is very important in tick mix-ups, together with Far Standing Short: both can be used to punish the enemy for standing up, which is often necessary for inputting invulnerable reversal moves. Always going for the SPD from max range can get predictable, so this is one of the possible mix-ups one can do. O.Zangief has the interesting ability to Special Cancel this move, which does help him a little. Also, O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

Aerial Normals

  • Neutral Jumping Jab:
Damage 18[1] OZangief njjab1 djjab1 njstrng1 djstrng1 njfrc1.png OZangief njjab2 djjab2.png OZangief njjab3.png OZangief njjab4 djjab4 njstrng4 djstrng4 njfrc4.png
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40



Frame Count 2 3 8
Simplified 2 11

Aerial knife hand strike. Totally outprioritized by the Strong and Fierce versions since it has the same frame data but worse priority and damage. Avoid this move.

  • Diagonal Jumping Jab:
Damage 18[1] OZangief njjab1 djjab1 njstrng1 djstrng1 njfrc1.png OZangief njjab2 djjab2.png OZangief djjab3.png OZangief njjab4 djjab4 njstrng4 djstrng4 njfrc4.png
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40



Frame Count 2 3 8
Simplified 2 11

Animates the same as the Neutral Jumping version. Somewhat out prioritized by the Strong version. It has better vertical priority by 2 pixels but the damage and horizontal priority/range is a lot worse. Not useful for anything really.

  • Neutral Jumping Strong:
Damage 22[1] OZangief njjab1 djjab1 njstrng1 djstrng1 njfrc1.png OZangief njstrng2 djstrng2.png OZangief njstrng3.png OZangief njjab4 djjab4 njstrng4 djstrng4 njfrc4.png
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40



Frame Count 2 3 8
Simplified 2 11

Yet another knife hand strike in the air. Totally out prioritized by the Fierce version since it has same everything but worse priority and damage. Also, it does an unusually low stun for a Strong attack.

  • Diagonal Jumping Strong:
Damage 22[1] OZangief njjab1 djjab1 njstrng1 djstrng1 njfrc1.png OZangief njstrng2 djstrng2.png OZangief djstrng3.png OZangief njjab4 djjab4 njstrng4 djstrng4 njfrc4.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 50(+10)



Frame Count 2 3 8
Simplified 2 11

Animates like the Neutral Jumping version as well. It's Zangief's main air to air option. It is not that great at it but it can beat some moves like Blanka's Jumping Strong, for example. Also, it's his Diagonal Jumping move with the longest range.

  • Neutral Jumping Fierce:
Damage 30[2] OZangief njjab1 djjab1 njstrng1 djstrng1 njfrc1.png OZangief njfrc2.png OZangief njfrc3.png OZangief njjab4 djjab4 njstrng4 djstrng4 njfrc4.png
Stun 11~17(-1)
Stun Timer 60(+20)



Frame Count 2 3 8
Simplified 2 11

Animates like his Jumping Jabs and Strongs. This is Zangief's Neutral Jumping move with the best priority air to air. At least it's good enough to beat Cammy's Thrust Kick (if done from far enough) and Claw's Wall Dive. O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

  • Diagonal Jumping Fierce:
Damage 30[2] OZangief djfrc1&7.png OZangief djfrc2&6.png OZangief djfrc3&5.png OZangief djfrc4.png OZangief djfrc3&5.png OZangief djfrc2&6.png OZangief djfrc1&7.png
Stun 11~17(-1)
Stun Timer 60(+20)



Frame Count 1 3 3 7 3 3
Simplified 7 7

Zangief does an aerial long punch. It is Zangief's main air to ground attack: great at jumping over fireballs, at surprise jumps and as a combo starter. It can also be used to tick into SPD. If you hit the opponent close enough, it's a good idea to do a SPD exactly when Zangief lands, for massive damage. O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

  • Neutral Jumping Short:
Damage 18[1] OZangief njshrt1 djshrt1 njfrwrd1 djfrwrd1 njrh1.png OZangief njshrt2.png
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40



Frame Count 3

Zangief does a weak two foot kick which stays active for the entire jump. OK for tick throwing if you ever find yourself in the range and with enough momentum. This will basically never happen though.

  • Diagonal Jumping Short:
Damage 18[1] OZangief njshrt1 djshrt1 njfrwrd1 djfrwrd1 njrh1.png OZangief djshrt2 djfrwrd2.png OZangief djshrt3 njfrwrd3 djfrwrd3 njrh3.png OZangief djshrt4 njfrwrd4 djfrwrd4 njrh4 djrh4.png OZangief djshrt5 njfrwrd5 djfrwrd5 njrh5 djrh5.png OZangief djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh6 djrh6.png
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40



Frame Count 3 16 8 6 4
Simplified 3 16

Zangief does a weak two foot kick which stays active a lot less time than the Neutral Jumping version. It's Zangief's main air ticking move. It excels at it because it has good range and you don't need to care if it hits or if it's blocked: the timing for the SPD when landing will be the same because aerial light attacks do equal stun on hit or block. If your opponent happens to be able to constantly reverse these tick attempts then a possible mix-up exists: use Forward or Roundhouse instead, since they animate the same the opponent will not be able to tell the difference until it hits, but keep in mind that this will only be really effective if the opponent actually blocks it (remember: aerial block stun is gradual but aerial hit stun is constant). It can also be used for safe jumps and as an instant overhead.

  • Neutral Jumping Forward:
Damage 22[1] OZangief njshrt1 djshrt1 njfrwrd1 djfrwrd1 njrh1.png OZangief njfrwrd2.png OZangief djshrt3 njfrwrd3 djfrwrd3 njrh3.png OZangief djshrt4 njfrwrd4 djfrwrd4 njrh4 djrh4.png OZangief djshrt5 njfrwrd5 djfrwrd5 njrh5 djrh5.png OZangief djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh6 djrh6.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 50(+10)



Frame Count 3 16 8 6 4
Simplified 3 16

Another two foot aerial kick but with a little more damage, stun, priority and range. With that aside, it's as useless as the Short version.

  • Diagonal Jumping Forward:
Damage 22[1] OZangief njshrt1 djshrt1 njfrwrd1 djfrwrd1 njrh1.png OZangief djshrt2 djfrwrd2.png OZangief djshrt3 njfrwrd3 djfrwrd3 njrh3.png OZangief djshrt4 njfrwrd4 djfrwrd4 njrh4 djrh4.png OZangief djshrt5 njfrwrd5 djfrwrd5 njrh5 djrh5.png OZangief djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh6 djrh6.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 50(+10)



Frame Count 3 16 8 6 4
Simplified 3 16

Animates like the Short version, it even has the same priority and frame data, but with more damage and stun potential of course. It can be used as a mix-up when air ticking with the Short version but its not as efficient because of the difference on the hit and block stuns. It's also Zangief's best move to use as an instant overhead.

  • Neutral Jumping Roundhouse:
Damage 30[2] OZangief njshrt1 djshrt1 njfrwrd1 djfrwrd1 njrh1.png OZangief njrh2.png OZangief djshrt3 njfrwrd3 djfrwrd3 njrh3.png OZangief djshrt4 njfrwrd4 djfrwrd4 njrh4 djrh4.png OZangief djshrt5 njfrwrd5 djfrwrd5 njrh5 djrh5.png OZangief djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh6 djrh6.png
Stun 11~17(-1)
Stun Timer 60(+20)



Frame Count 3 8 8 6 4
Simplified 3 8

Zangief does a fast two foot aerial kick which has awesome range. It is the best Neutral Jumping kick, it has pretty much the same range as Neutral Jumping Fierce and less priority, but it hits lower which allows Zangief to beat some low moves (e.g. Blanka's Fierce Slide). Also, his startup hurtboxes are a lot smaller compared to the ones from the active part which makes this move very good for trading. It's a very good move for anticipating the opponent's jump-ins. O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

  • Diagonal Jumping Roundhouse:
Damage 30[2] OZangief djrh1.png OZangief djrh2.png OZangief djrh3.png OZangief djshrt4 njfrwrd4 djfrwrd4 njrh4 djrh4.png OZangief djshrt5 njfrwrd5 djfrwrd5 njrh5 djrh5.png OZangief djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh6 djrh6.png
Stun 11~17(-1)
Stun Timer 60(+20)



Frame Count 3 8 8 6 4
Simplified 3 8

Yet another two foot kick. Good for anticipating jump ins. While it's a bad move for trading because of the premature projected hurtbox during startup, it's good for shenanigans: whiff it on purpose and do SPD exactly when Zangief lands. This only really work with Roundhouse because it has a unique hurtbox during the first recovery part: Zangief's leg hurtbox is a lot smaller compared to his other aerial kicks. It's also worth to mention that this move can also be used as an instant overhead, but the timing is much more strict than the other kicks and it's also impossible to perform against a considerable amount of characters so it's not really practical. O.Zangief does a little more damage with this move.

--Born2SPD

Command Normals

  • Headbutt: (Jump straight up, ↖/↑/↗ + Strong/Fierce)
  • Strong Version:
Damage 26[2] OZangief hb1.png OZangief hb2strng.png OZangief hb3.png
Stun 21~27
28~34(JP)
Stun Timer 100
90(JP)


Frame Count 3 8
  • Fierce Version:
Damage 32[2] OZangief hb1.png OZangief hb2frc.png OZangief hb3.png
Stun 21~27
28~34(JP)
Stun Timer 100
90(JP)


Frame Count 3 6

Zangief does a sort of headbutt thing. In the Japanese version it's often an instant dizzy, but in every other version it got nerfed, so it's not very useful. It still does a very high stun, but not enough to 1 hit dizzy. The Fierce version has better priority and does more damage but has less attacking frames.

  • Flying Body Attack a.k.a. Chest Splash: (Jump diagonally, ↙/↓/↘ + Fierce)
Damage 26[1] OZangief splash1.png OZangief splash2.png
Stun 11~17(-1)
Stun Timer 60(+20)


Frame Count 5

Zangief does a body press with his hairy chest. It's Zangief's only cross-up move and for that sole reason it's a valuable tool in Zangief's arsenal. Very important in cross-up combos or block strings into ticking. Its damage is a little nerfed for a Fierce move but the priority compensates it. It does a poor job in air to air but for air to ground it does OK against some flawed anti airs. Also, his legs are invulnerable which helps a lot when crossing up opponents as it allows Zangief to do it while being safe from certain special moves (e.g. Shoto's Shoryukens) when he is landing on the opposite side. There are some funny uses for this move: against N.Ryu, if he is about to die and you know he is reversal happy, you can just jump and do it late and it will trade with his Reversal Shoryuken for the win. It can also beat Sagat's Tiger Uppercut if timed to hit right after the invulnerable part. You can't rely on that kind of tactics though, since a experienced player can just delay his move a bit, which will then hit Zangief cleanly, for big damage.

  • Double Knee Drop: (Jump diagonally, ↙/↓/↘ + Short/Forward)
  • Short Version:
Damage 20[1] OZangief knee1short knee1&3frwrd.png OZangief knee2shrt.png
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40


Frame Count 5
  • Forward Version:
Damage 24[1] OZangief knee1short knee1&3frwrd.png OZangief knee2frwrd.png OZangief knee1short knee1&3frwrd.png OZangief knee4frwrd.png
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40


Frame Count 7 18 6
Simplified 7 18

Zangief does a double knee attack in the air. The Short version has two main uses: it's perfect as a safe jump attack since it's a weak attack (i.e. you don't have to care about hit and block stun differences) that stays active for the whole jump and as a tick into Super. I recommend to mix it up with Diagonal Jumping Short when going for Super just to make them think that you're going to tick into SPD or whatever. I say this because when folks know that Zangief is going for Super they try to counter throw, and they tend to be successful at it because Zangief's Super has a mediocre throw range.
The Forward version is better used as an air to ground tool due to its amazing vertical priority. It's very good against low hitting kicks and some other anti airs if right timed. The right timing must be stressed: Its active for a limited amount of time, and the recovery has hurtboxes projected out of place which makes it easily punishable. You can also use it to beat E.Honda's Headbutt, but keep in mind that you have to land on top of E.Honda or it will be beaten, cleanly. Also, you can use it as an instant overhead against some characters, but Zangief has better options for that. Note that Zangief inflicts very low dizzy stun with this move so limit the use for when you actually needs its particular "anti-anti-air" priorities.
For some reason O.Zangief does more damage with these moves.

--Born2SPD and UltraDavid

Normal Throws

As the prototypical grappler, Zangief has the most Normal Throws in the game and even a couple of the best in his Strong and Roundhouse grabs. That said, because of the SPD his Normal Throws go mostly unused. Note that Zangief's Normal Throws lose in range to E.Honda's, Blanka's and Dhalsim's Normal Throws. He does out range all these characters by a comfortable amount with his SPD though.

  • Standing Normal Grabs Throwboxes:
Throws Holds OZangief stthrowb.png OZangief stthrow.png OZangief stthrowf.png
Damage 32 Damage 26 + 4*n
Stun 7~13 Set amount of hits 4
Stun Timer 100 Holds do no stun
Range (from axis) 69 (from throwable box) 24
  • Pile Driver: (←/→ + Strong)

Zangief's most commonly-used Normal Throw. Zangief sits on the opponent's head, opponent always stays in front of Zangief. Sets up a cross-up Chest Splash when unteched. Because of that, it's incredibly good against Old Characters (since they can't tech throws) because you can "loop" it. It works like this: after you grab them, do a Green Hand, cross-up Splash, and now you can mixup with 0~2 Crouching Jabs and then Throw again.

  • Iron Claw: (←/→ + Fierce)

Zangief does, I don't know, something to the opponent's face for multiple hits. Should never be used on purpose.

  • Brain Buster: (←/→ + Forward)

Zangief throws the opponent over his head, opponent always ends up behind him. Not as useful as the Strong Throw because the opponent is Thrown too far for a cross-up, but if Zangief is in the corner and you want the opponent cornered, here ya go.

  • Kamitsuki a.k.a. Bite: (←/→ + Roundhouse)

Zangief bites the opponent for multiple hits. For a normal throw this does great damage, and it would be awesome for any other character, but again, if you're going to Grab, a SPD would be the right choice. It's possible to cross under some characters if you got then trapped in the corner.

  • Stomach Claw: (↙/↓/↘ + Strong/Fierce)
Damage 26 + 4*n OZangief crthrow.png
Set amount of hits 4
Holds do no stun
Range (from axis) 69
(from throwable box) 24

Crouching version of the Fierce grab. This sometimes comes out when you want a crouching strong poke, and that's fine because the grab does more damage. What is so great about this grab is that you do it while crouching, which can save your ass from a lot of different mixups with ease.

  • Deadly Driver: (Zangief and opponent in air, ↖/←/↙/↓/↘/→/↗ + Strong/Fierce)
Damage 42 OZangief pairthrow.png
Stun 7~13
Stun Timer 100
Range (from axis) 61
(from throwable box) 16

Zangief throws the opponent down in the direction pressed. Does more damage than the Kick Air Throw but the follow-up game is weaker.

  • Leg Throw: (Zangief and opponent in air, ↖/←/↙/↓/↘/→/↗ + Forward/Roundhouse)
Damage 34 OZangief kairthrow.png
Stun 7~13
Stun Timer 100
Range (from axis) 61
(from throwable box) 16

Zangief tosses over his head in the direction pressed. This is the better Air Throw because it leaves the opponent closer, but it's still very rarely used.

--Born2SPD and UltraDavid

Special Moves

  • Spinning Pile Driver a.k.a. SPD: (360 + P)

Detailed Input: (→ [0~6f] ↓ [0~6f] ← [0~6f] ↑ [0~12/9/7/4f] Jab/Strong/Fierce/any P if you are at a jumpable state and the last direction was ↑. The first direction and the side you spin is not fixed. You just need to input the 4 main directions in order. More explanation here)

Jab Strong Fierce OZangief spd0.png
Damage 42[1] 46[1] 50[1]
Stun 7~13
Stun Timer 100
Range (from axis) 111
(from throwable box) 66
  • Whiff:
OZangief whiff1&5.png OZangief whiff2&4.png OZangief whiff3.png OZangief whiff2&4.png OZangief whiff1&5.png
Frame Count (Jab) 5 5 16 3 3
Simplified (Jab) 32
Frame Count (Strong) 5 5 18 3 3
Simplified (Strong) 34
Frame Count (Fierce) 5 5 20 3 3
Simplified (Fierce) 36

A command throw with great range that does good damage; this is Zangief's most important move. Zangief attempts a throw and after that remains stuck on an animation so that he can not block or move. The Jab version does the worst damage and Fierce does the highest, although it does not vary all that much. All versions have the same range. If done after a tick, the opponent can only escape by doing a reversal-timed instantly-invincible attack, like a dragon punch, or a move that puts the character in the air, like Blanka's rolling attack.

NOTE: SPD can have active frames, but you must earn them!

  • Atomic Suplex: (Close, 360 + K)

Detailed Input: (→ [0~6f] ↓ [0~6f] ← [0~6f] ↑ [0~12/9/7/4f] Short/Forward/Roundhouse/any K if you are at a jumpable state and the last direction was ↑. The first direction and the side you spin is not fixed. You just need to input the 4 main directions in order. More explanation here)

Short Forward Rh Short Forward Roundhouse
Damage 20 + 30[0] 20 + 32[0] 20 + 34[0] OZangief suplexshrt.png OZangief suplexfrwrd.png OZangief suplexrh.png
Stun 7~13
Stun Timer 100

Range (from axis) 66 69 83
(from throwable box) 21 24 38

This command throw is more damaging than SPD, but its range is much smaller. If you are right up close, go for this for more guaranteed damage. If done after a tick, the opponent can only escape by doing a reversal-timed instantly-invincible/airborne attack. If the grab attempt is not successful, this move turns into the Flying Power Bomb, also known as the Running Bear Grab. Always use the Roundhouse version because it has better range as well as damage potential. The best moves to tick this from are Close Standing Short and Crouching Strong because they both leave Zangief at very little or no frame advantage, this means that a Running Bear Grab will never come out or only rarely (unless the normal was meaty timed), with Crouching Strong leaving Zangief at optimal range for it. Something worth mentioning is that the Roundhouse version is Zangief's only command grab which can throw every character as a crossup before turning (the throwbox extends after the pushbox's back by some pixels).

  • Flying Power Bomb a.k.a. Running Bear Grab: (Far, 360 + K)

Detailed Input: (→ [0~6f] ↓ [0~6f] ← [0~6f] ↑ [0~12/9/7/4f] Short/Forward/Roundhouse/any K if you are at a jumpable state and the last direction was ↑. The first direction and the side you spin is not fixed. You just need to input the 4 main directions in order. More explanation here)

  • Startup + Active:
Damage 34[0] OZangief run1.png OZangief run2.png OZangief run3.png OZangief run4.png OZangief run5.png OZangief run6.png
Stun 7~13
Stun Timer 100

Range (from axis) 66
(from throwable box) 21
Frame Count (Short) 10 3 4 4 4 1
Simplified (Short) 10 16
Frame Count (Forward) 12 3 4 4 4 1
Simplified (Forward) 12 16
Frame Count (Rh) 14 3 4 4 4 1
Simplified (Rh) 14 16
  • Whiff:
OZangief whiff1&5.png OZangief whiff2&4.png OZangief whiff3.png OZangief whiff2&4.png OZangief whiff1&5.png
Frame Count (Short) 5 5 16 3 3
Simplified (Short) 32
Frame Count (Forward) 5 5 18 3 3
Simplified (Forward) 34
Frame Count (Rh) 5 5 20 3 3
Simplified (Rh) 36

Zangief runs a certain distance, and if he gets close enough, he grabs the opponent. This does less damage than SPD and SPD's range is only a little smaller than this move's max running range, but it's still useful in some match-ups and in surprise situations. All versions have the same range. The startup time means the opponent can jump or even hit Zangief out of it with a normal.

  • Double Lariat a.k.a. Punch Lariat: (Jab + Strong + Fierce)

Detailed Input: (Can be done crouching, all buttons must be pressed on the same frame, negative edge not possible)

Damage 30[3] OZangief plariat1 klariat1.png OZangief plariat2 klariat2.png OZangief plariat3&7&11 klariat3&7.png OZangief plariat4 klariat4&8.png OZangief plariat5&9&13 klariat5&9.png OZangief plariat6 klariat6.png OZangief plariat3&7&11 klariat3&7.png
Stun 9~15
Stun Timer 100



Frame Count 1 6 5 5 5 5 5
OZangief plariat8.png OZangief plariat5&9&13 klariat5&9.png OZangief plariat10.png OZangief plariat3&7&11 klariat3&7.png OZangief plariat12.png OZangief plariat5&9&13 klariat5&9.png
Frame Count 5 5 5 5 5 3

Zangief spins around with hands a-flailing, with mid body invulnerability. The attack range increases with each spin. This move goes through any projectile that is not a Low Tiger shot, and also through some supers and most high- and mid- level normals. The active hitbox extends to only one of Zangief's hands, so although the hand with the hitbox beats just about every non-invincible move in its range (Zangief's arm is fully invincible), the chance of that happening is a little less than 50%; as a result, while the Lariat can beat things like Honda's headbutt, it does so only occasionally.

  • Quick Double Lariat a.k.a. Kick Lariat: (Short + Forward + Roundhouse)

Detailed Input: (Can be done crouching, all buttons must be pressed on the same frame, negative edge not possible)

Damage 30[3] OZangief plariat1 klariat1.png OZangief plariat2 klariat2.png OZangief plariat3&7&11 klariat3&7.png OZangief plariat4 klariat4&8.png OZangief plariat5&9&13 klariat5&9.png OZangief plariat6 klariat6.png OZangief plariat3&7&11 klariat3&7.png
Stun 9~15
Stun Timer 100



Frame Count 1 6 5 5 5 5 5
OZangief plariat4 klariat4&8.png OZangief plariat5&9&13 klariat5&9.png OZangief klariat10.png
Frame Count 5 5 1
Simplified 5 6

Like the punch Lariat, but this one has a shorter duration and range and doesn't move laterally as far. Unlike N.Zangief's version of this move, it has the same lower hurtbox as the punch lariat, which does not allow you to spin though Sagat's Low Tiger shots. That in my opinion makes the O.Zangief vs O.Sagat the worst matchup in the whole game, it is 1 - 9 or even 0.5 - 9.5, if you don't abuse O.Zangief's Reversal Suplex bug.

--Born2SPD and UltraDavid

The Basics

Advanced Strategy

Match-ups