Vega (ST)

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Vega's portrait in Super Turbo

Introduction

Vega is the self-proclaimed most handsome fighter in the world. He wears a mask in his fights to help protect his beautiful face and a claw on his hand to slash down opponents with ease. He also features a nifty snake tattoo that covers much of his torso and one arm.

Vega, from Spain, is sometimes known as the Spanish Ninja because of his blending of the matador and ninjitsu styles.

--Vega 15:54, 6 February 2006 (CST)

Competitive Overview

Vega is considered top tier in ST, to the point where he was sometimes softbanned in Japanese tournaments. His wall dive loops are incredibly hard to stop even at the highest levels, and apart from that he is diverse enough to zone, run away, and rushdown successfully. He has a unique combination of speed and range, making him best suited for a hit and run playstyle.

Strengths & Weaknesses

Strengths

  • Fastest walk speed in the game
  • Second longest range behind Dhalsim
  • Tall, narrow, fast jump is perfect to get around fireballers
  • Great normals and useful specials (unlike SF4)
  • Excellent at controlling distance

Weaknesses

  • He is weak - dizzies easily, low priority, trade-hits rarely in his favor
  • Low damage, low combo ability
  • Weak throw range & long-range normals make him awkward up close

New & Old Versions Comparison

To select O.Vega, choose Vega and then press ← → → ← Jab/Fierce, pressing Short simultaneously with the punch button for the alternate color.

Here is the list of differences:

  • Obvious stuff: O.Vega can not tech throws, does not have the Scarlet Terror special move and Super;
  • O.Vega cannot pick his claw back up once it has been knocked off;
  • O.Vega has some differences in some of his normals:
    • Close Standing Strong can be special canceled;
    • Close Standing Forward can be special canceled;
    • Far Standing Forward can be special canceled;
  • O.Vega's Flying Barcelona Attack have a buggy input detection: the kick button must be pressed before ↑;
  • O.Vega's Flying Barcelona Attack have a "suck-in" property on hit: the opponent always falls in the direction of the wall O.Vega dived from;

O.Vega is not worthy, mainly because the loss of Scarlet Terror, which is Vega's dedicated anti air/counter move and the only proper reversal. His new cancels aren't that great, and his suck in Wall Dive isn't really beneficial because you normally don't want opponents to be pushed towards you, especially in the corner. Also, the opponent's body is still turned the correct way so you can't create any confusion on what side you hit. The only minor interesting bit to this glitch is that since the opponent's body sucks in towards you, you can force him to lose charge by sliding underneath but it's so obvious and inefficient that it can hardly be counted as a benefit.

Color Options

Jab Strong Fierce Start Old
Vega-lp.gif Vega-mp.gif Vega-hp.gif Vega-start.gif Vega-old1.gif
Vega-lk.gif Vega-mk.gif Vega-hk.gif Vega-hold.gif Vega-old2.gif
Short Forward Roundhouse Hold Old Alternative

--Born2SPD

Move Analysis

Disclaimer: To better understand the diagrams, read this.
Losing the claw makes all punch attacks (including specials) to do less damage. Also, ground punch normals and some specials will have worse priority.

Normal Moves

Ground Normals

  • Close/Far Standing Jab:
Normal Clawless Vega stcljab1 stfarjab1 stclstrng1 stclfrc1 stclshrt1 stfarrh1&9.png Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png Normal Clawless Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png
Damage 4[1] Vega stcljab3 stfarjab3 stclstrng3.png Vega stcljab3 stfarjab3 stclstrng3 noclaw.png
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +4
Frame Count 2 2 4 5
Simplified 1 + 4 4 5

Very short range, misses crouching opponents. Sometimes useful as quick anti-air against late crossups.

  • Crouching Jab:
Normal Clawless Vega crjab1&7 crstrng1&7 crfrc1&7.png Vega crjab2&6 crstrng2&6 crfrc2&6.png Vega crjab3&5 crstrng3&5 crfrc3&5.png Normal Clawless
Damage 4[1] Vega crjab4.png Vega crjab4 noclaw.png
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +4
Frame Count 1 1 1 4
Simplified 1 + 3 4
Vega crjab3&5 crstrng3&5 crfrc3&5.png Vega crjab2&6 crstrng2&6 crfrc2&6.png Vega crjab1&7 crstrng1&7 crfrc1&7.png Vega crjab8 crstrng8 crfrc8 crshrt1&7 crfrwrd1&7 crrh1&6.png
Frame Count 1 1 2 1
Simplified 5

Very quick and long range. These do not combo, but the window to counter is very narrow. This move goes past the opponent and whiffs at point blank range.

  • Close Standing Strong:
Normal Clawless Vega stcljab1 stfarjab1 stclstrng1 stclfrc1 stclshrt1 stfarrh1&9.png Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png Normal Clawless Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png
Damage 20[1] 18[1] Vega stcljab3 stfarjab3 stclstrng3.png Vega stcljab3 stfarjab3 stclstrng3 noclaw.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +5
Frame Count 2 3 4 9
Simplified 1 + 5 4 9

A high claw that misses crouching characters. Unlike a normal Strong, you can combo after it. Note that only O.Vega can special cancel this move.

  • Far Standing Strong:
Normal Clawless Vega stfarstrng1&5 stfarshrt2&4.png Vega stfarstrng2.png Normal Clawless Vega stfarstrng4.png Vega stfarstrng1&5 stfarshrt2&4.png
Damage 20[1] 18[1] Vega stfarstrng3.png Vega stfarstrng3 noclaw.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel No
Frame Advantage +2
Frame Count 3 4 6 5 5
Simplified 1 + 7 6 10

Lunges forward with good range. Hitbox has a little more height than Far Standing Fierce, but less horizontal reach.

  • Crouching Strong:
Normal Clawless Vega crjab1&7 crstrng1&7 crfrc1&7.png Vega crjab2&6 crstrng2&6 crfrc2&6.png Vega crjab3&5 crstrng3&5 crfrc3&5.png Normal Clawless
Damage 18[1] 16[1] Vega crstrng4.png Vega crstrng4 noclaw.png
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +4
Frame Count 1 1 1 4
Simplified 1 + 3 4
Vega crjab3&5 crstrng3&5 crfrc3&5.png Vega crjab2&6 crstrng2&6 crfrc2&6.png Vega crjab1&7 crstrng1&7 crfrc1&7.png Vega crjab8 crstrng8 crfrc8 crshrt1&7 crfrwrd1&7 crrh1&6.png
Frame Count 3 3 3 1
Simplified 10

Like the Crouching Jab, but slightly slower, with a bit more range & more damaging. Also misses at point blank range.

  • Close Standing Fierce:
Normal Clawless Vega stcljab1 stfarjab1 stclstrng1 stclfrc1 stclshrt1 stfarrh1&9.png Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png Vega stclfrc3.png Normal Clawless Vega stclfrc5.png Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png
Damage 26[1] 24[1] Vega stclfrc4.png Vega stclfrc4 noclaw.png
Stun 10~16
Stun Timer 80
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel No
Frame Advantage +6
Frame Count 2 2 2 6 5 5
Simplified 1 + 6 6 10

Somewhat like Close Standing Strong. Not really useful.

  • Far Standing Fierce:
Normal Clawless Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png Vega stfarfrc2.png Vega stfarfrc3.png Normal Clawless Vega stfarfrc5.png Vega stfarfrc6.png
Damage 26[1] 24[1] Vega stfarfrc4.png Vega stfarfrc4 noclaw.png
Stun 10~16
Stun Timer 80
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel No
Frame Advantage +0 / +3
Frame Count 4 4 3 6 6 8
Simplified 1 + 8 9 13

This is Vega's longest range move, and does good damage. It has a lot of startup time and stays out a long time. You can press it early from 1/2 screen and catch people walking in or trying to fireball.

  • Crouching Fierce:
Normal Clawless Vega crjab1&7 crstrng1&7 crfrc1&7.png Vega crjab2&6 crstrng2&6 crfrc2&6.png Vega crjab3&5 crstrng3&5 crfrc3&5.png Normal Clawless
Damage 26[1] 20[1] Vega crfrc4.png Vega crfrc4 noclaw.png
Stun 10~16
Stun Timer 80
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel No
Frame Advantage +1
Frame Count 4 2 2 8
Simplified 1 + 8 8
Vega crjab3&5 crstrng3&5 crfrc3&5.png Vega crjab2&6 crstrng2&6 crfrc2&6.png Vega crjab1&7 crstrng1&7 crfrc1&7.png Vega crjab8 crstrng8 crfrc8 crshrt1&7 crfrwrd1&7 crrh1&6.png
Frame Count 4 4 4 1
Simplified 13

A crouching upwards-angled claw. This is decent anti-air against people with low jumps like Zangief or Balrog, and you keep your charges too. After a blockstring, you can throw this out and catch the opponent jumping on the way up.

  • Close Standing Short:
Normal Clawless Vega stcljab1 stfarjab1 stclstrng1 stclfrc1 stclshrt1 stfarrh1&9.png Vega stclshrt2.png Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png
Damage 4[1]
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +4
Frame Count 4 4 5
Simplified 1 + 4 4 5

A quick knee. Different animation than Far Short, but works the same.

  • Far Standing Short:
Normal Clawless Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png Vega stfarstrng1&5 stfarshrt2&4.png Vega stfarshrt3.png Vega stfarstrng1&5 stfarshrt2&4.png Vega stfarshrt5.png Vega stfarshrt6.png
Damage 4[1]
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +4
Frame Count 2 2 4 3 1 1
Simplified 1 + 4 4 5

A very quick knee attack with good priority. Useful for tick throwing. This attack goes over a lot of low shorts and low medium kicks, making it very useful in footsie games.

  • Crouching Short:
Normal Clawless Vega crjab8 crstrng8 crfrc8 crshrt1&7 crfrwrd1&7 crrh1&6.png Vega crshrt2 crfrwrd2 crrh2.png Vega crshrt3 crfrwrd3 crrh3.png Vega crshrt4 crfrwrd4.png Vega crshrt5.png Vega crshrt6 crfrwrd6 crrh5.png Vega crjab8 crstrng8 crfrc8 crshrt1&7 crfrwrd1&7 crrh1&6.png
Damage 12[1]
Stun 0~5
Stun Timer 40
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +4
Frame Count 1 1 1 1 4 4 1
Simplified 1 + 4 4 5

OK to push away someone that's too close.

  • Close Standing Forward:
Normal Clawless Vega stclfrwrd1&3.png Vega stclfrwrd2.png Vega stclfrwrd1&3.png
Damage 20[1] 18[1]
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +3
Frame Count 5 6 9
Simplified 1 + 5 6 9

Vega does a different kick than Far Forward, but it works the same. Note that only O.Vega can special cancel this move.

  • Far Standing Forward:
Normal Clawless Vega stfarfrwrd1&5 stclrh1&5 stfarrh3&7.png Vega stfarfrwrd2&4 stclrh2&4.png Vega stfarfrwrd3 stclrh3.png Vega stfarfrwrd2&4 stclrh2&4.png Vega stfarfrwrd1&5 stclrh1&5 stfarrh3&7.png
Damage 20[1] 18[1]
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +2
Frame Count 2 3 6 5 5
Simplified 1 + 5 6 10

A straight kick with decent range. This beats some attacks that stuff your low claws, like Balrog's Crouching Forward. Note that only O.Vega can special cancel this move.

  • Crouching Forward:
Normal Clawless Vega crjab8 crstrng8 crfrc8 crshrt1&7 crfrwrd1&7 crrh1&6.png Vega crshrt2 crfrwrd2 crrh2.png Vega crshrt3 crfrwrd3 crrh3.png Vega crshrt4 crfrwrd4.png Vega crfrwrd5.png Vega crshrt6 crfrwrd6 crrh5.png Vega crjab8 crstrng8 crfrc8 crshrt1&7 crfrwrd1&7 crrh1&6.png
Damage 16[1]
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 60
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel Yes
Super Cancel Yes
Frame Advantage +7
Frame Count 1 1 1 1 4 6 1
Simplified 1 + 4 4 7

A very useful low kick. You can always link another Crouching Forward or a Crouching Strong after this to keep opponents at your preferred distance. You can whiff these on purpose if they like to Psychic DP your claw pokes.

  • Close Standing Roundhouse:
Normal Clawless Vega stfarfrwrd1&5 stclrh1&5 stfarrh3&7.png Vega stfarfrwrd2&4 stclrh2&4.png Vega stfarfrwrd3 stclrh3.png Vega stfarfrwrd2&4 stclrh2&4.png Vega stfarfrwrd1&5 stclrh1&5 stfarrh3&7.png
Stun 24[1] 22[1]
Stun 10~16
Stun Timer 80
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel No
Frame Advantage +6
Frame Count 3 3 6 5 5
Simplified 1 + 6 6 10

Animates the same as a normal Far Forward. Leaves Vega at frame advantage.

  • Far Standing Roundhouse:
Normal Clawless Vega stcljab1 stfarjab1 stclstrng1 stclfrc1 stclshrt1 stfarrh1&9.png Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png Vega stfarfrwrd1&5 stclrh1&5 stfarrh3&7.png Vega stfarrh4&6.png Vega stfarrh5.png Vega stfarrh4&6.png Vega stfarfrwrd1&5 stclrh1&5 stfarrh3&7.png Vega stcljab2&4 stfarjab2&4 stclstrng2&4 stclfrc2&6 stfarfrc1 stclshrt3 stfarshrt1 stfarrh2&8.png Vega stcljab1 stfarjab1 stclstrng1 stclfrc1 stclshrt1 stfarrh1&9.png
Stun 24[1] 18[1]
Stun 10~16
Stun Timer 80
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel No
Frame Advantage -3
Frame Count 2 2 2 2 8 4 4 4 5
Simplified 1 + 8 8 17

High anti-air kick with great range. Hits many air moves including T.Hawk's dive, Honda's butt slam, and Fei's chicken wing. It can beat a lot of different aerial moves but it has a fairly slow startup so you need to press it early.

  • Crouching Roundhouse:
Normal Clawless Vega crjab8 crstrng8 crfrc8 crshrt1&7 crfrwrd1&7 crrh1&6.png Vega crshrt2 crfrwrd2 crrh2.png Vega crshrt3 crfrwrd3 crrh3.png Vega crrh4.png Vega crshrt6 crfrwrd6 crrh5.png Vega crjab8 crstrng8 crfrc8 crshrt1&7 crfrwrd1&7 crrh1&6.png
Stun 20[1]
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 130
Chain Cancel No
Special Cancel No
Super Cancel No
Frame Advantage -9
Frame Count 3 2 2 17 13 1
Simplified 1 + 7 17 14

A Slide. This can be punished up close, but is safe at long distance. Often trades hits with fireballs.

Aerial Normals

  • Neutral Jumping Jab:
Normal Clawless Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega njjab2 njstrng2.png Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png
Damage 4[1]
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40


Frame Count 1 30 3
Simplified 1 30

High claw attack with excellent startup.

  • Diagonal Jumping Jab:
Normal Clawless Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega djjab3 djstrng3.png Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 4[1]
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40


Frame Count 1 4 10 5 4
Simplified 5 10

High claw attack. Not useful because it's totally outprioritized by neutral Jumping Strong.

  • Neutral Jumping Strong:
Normal Clawless Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega njjab2 njstrng2.png Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 20[1] 18[1]
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 50(+10)


Frame Count 3 14 4 4
Simplified 3 14

Same animation as J.Jab. This has some use in air-to-air vs. high jumpers like Chun Li or M.Bison.

  • Diagonal Jumping Strong:
Normal Clawless Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega djjab3 djstrng3.png Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 20[1]
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 50(+10)


Frame Count 1 4 10 5 4
Simplified 5 10

Same animation as Diagonal Jumping Jab but with better damage potential. This move has the longest horizontal range of all Vega's jumping moves. When you're jumping shoto/sagat fireballs from long range, you can use this to catch the tip of their extended arms.

  • Neutral Jumping Fierce:
Normal Clawless Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega njfrc3.png Vega njjab1&3 djjab2&4 njstrng1&3 djstrng2&4 njfrc2&4.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 26[1] 24[1]
Stun 11~17(-1)
Stun Timer 60(+20)


Frame Count 1 4 10 5 4
Simplified 5 10

Vega's aerial move with better horizontal priority. Can beat a lot ait-to-air by anticipation.

  • Diagonal Jumping Fierce:
Normal Clawless Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega djfrc2&4.png Vega djfrc3.png Vega djfrc2&4.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 26[1]
Stun 3~9
Stun Timer 40


Frame Count 2 4 10 5 4 3
Simplified 6 10

Good combo opener, very good priority and hits low to the ground, making it excellent for safe jumps.

  • Neutral Jumping Short:
Normal Clawless Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njshrt3.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 12[1]
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40


Frame Count 1 1 20 2 2
Simplified 2 20

A worse version of Neutral Jumping Forward but with more attacking frames. Avoid this move.

  • Diagonal Jumping Short:
Normal Clawless Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega djshrt3.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 14[1]
Stun 1~7(-2)
Stun Timer 40


Frame Count 1 1 20 2 2
Simplified 2 20

Low range, low damage, not very useful.

  • Neutral Jumping Forward:
Normal Clawless Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njfrwrd3.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 18[1]
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 50(+10)


Frame Count 1 1 10 2 2
Simplified 2 10

Counters a lot of special moves like Honda's Torpedo or Blanka's Horizontal Ball.

  • Diagonal Jumping Forward:
Normal Clawless Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega djfrwrd3.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 16[1]
Stun 5~11
Stun Timer 50(+10)


Frame Count 1 2 10 2 2
Simplified 3 10

It's not a bad move, it has a decent priority, but since Fierce is straight better then use that instead.

  • Neutral Jumping Roundhouse:
Normal Clawless Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njrh2&4 djrh2&4.png Vega njrh3.png Vega njrh2&4 djrh2&4.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 26[1]
Stun 11~17(-1)
Stun Timer 60(+20)


Frame Count 1 4 10 5 3 2
Simplified 5 10

Like the Diagonal Jumping Roundhouse but with bigger hitbox.

  • Diagonal Jumping Roundhouse:
Normal Clawless Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njrh2&4 djrh2&4.png Vega djrh3.png Vega njrh2&4 djrh2&4.png Vega djjab1 djstrng1 njfrc1 djfrc1&5 njshrt2&4 djshrt2&4 njfrwrd2&4 djfrwrd2&4 njrh1&5 djrh1&5.png Vega njjab4 djjab5 njstrng4 djstrng5 njfrc5 djfrc6 njshrt1&5 djshrt1&5 njfrwrd1&5 djfrwrd1&5 njrh6 djrh6.png Vega djjab6 njstrng5 djstrng6 njfrc6 djfrc7 njshrt6 djshrt6 njfrwrd6 djfrwrd6 njrh7 djrh7.png
Damage 26[1]
Stun 3~9
Stun Timer 40


Frame Count 1 4 12 4 3 2
Simplified 5 12

Best jumping attack with decent range. Vega can sometimes cross up with this but it's extremely difficult.

Throws

Vega can throw using Strong and Fierce. He can air throw that way as well. The direction of the joystick determines the direction the enemy gets thrown at. All his ground throws have the same range and do 32 points of damage (plus two more if behind in rounds).

  • Rainbow Suplex: (←/→ + Strong/Fierce)
Damage 32 Vega throw.png
Stun 7~13
Stun Timer 100
Range (from axis) 48
(from throwable box) 20


  • Stardust Drop: (Vega and opponent in air, ↖/↙/←/→/↘/↗ + Strong/Fierce)
Damage 32 Vega airthrow.png
Stun 7~13
Stun Timer 100
Range (from axis) 62
(from throwable box) 34

Special Moves

  • Triangle Jump: (Jump back against the wall, then in the air, jump again)

Not really a special move, but has a few limited uses. You can save yourself if you're about to land on a Torpedo/Psycho Crusher. This move is too slow to try and counter a fireball, even the slowest ones recover in time to uppercut you easily.

  • Back Slash a.k.a. Punch Back Flip: (Jab + Strong + Fierce)

Detailed Input: (Can be done crouching, all buttons must be pressed on the same frame, negative edge not possible)

Super Meter 5 Vega pbf1 kbf1.png Vega pbf2 kbf2.png Vega pbf3 kbf3.png Vega pbf4.png Vega pbf5.png Vega pbf6 kbf4.png Vega pbf7 kbf5.png Vega pbf8 kbf6.png





Frame Count 1 7 8 19 3 8 8 9
Simplified 54 9

The punch version is a double flip which lasts longer. It is completely invincible, but has a brief period of recovery at the end. It is handy for getting out of tick situations, but if you over-use it, the opponent will catch on and sweep you as it's ending. If your back is to the wall, this move also lets you go through fireballs, but your opponent walks towards you the screen will scroll at it will still hit you.

  • Short Back Slash a.k.a. Kick Back Flip: (Short + Forward + Roundhouse)

Detailed Input: (Can be done crouching, all buttons must be pressed on the same frame, negative edge not possible)

Super Meter 5 Vega pbf1 kbf1.png Vega pbf2 kbf2.png Vega pbf3 kbf3.png Vega pbf6 kbf4.png Vega pbf7 kbf5.png Vega pbf8 kbf6.png





Frame Count 1 8 8 8 5 9
Simplified 30 9

The kick version is quicker and doesn't move you very far back. You can use this early to go through some jump attacks - your recovery frames will be over before they land and you can throw them for free. Another good use is to stand next to your opponent after a knockdown, and backflip as they rise. Any reversal they do will whiff and leave them open. Repeated kick backflips can be used to charge your super meter very quickly.

  • Rolling Crystal Flash: (Charge ←, →, P)

Detailed Input: (Charge ← for at least 71f, [0~7f] → [0~10/9/7f] Jab/Strong/Fierce. It is needed to wait at least 1 frame after leaving the charge direction to enter with the P button)

  • Startup:
Super Meter 10 Vega rcf1.png Vega rcf2jab 2&7strng 2&7&12frc.png



Frame Count 5 5
Simplified 10
  • Active part 1:
    • Jab Version: This does not occur.
    • Strong Version: This happens only once.
    • Fierce Version: This happens twice.
Damage 4[1] Vega rcf3jab 3&8strng 3&8&13frc.png Vega rcf4jab 4&9strng 4&9&14frc.png Vega rcf5jab 5&10strng 5&10&15frc.png Vega rcf6jab 6&11strng 6&11&16frc.png Vega rcf2jab 2&7strng 2&7&12frc.png
Stun 0~6
Stun Timer 30


Frame Count 4 3 3 1 2
Simplified 4 6 1 2
  • Active part 2 + Recovery:
Damage 4[1] Vega rcf3jab 3&8strng 3&8&13frc.png Vega rcf4jab 4&9strng 4&9&14frc.png Vega rcf5jab 5&10strng 5&10&15frc.png Vega rcf6jab 6&11strng 6&11&16frc.png Vega rcf7&11jab 12&16strng 17&21frc.png Vega rcf8&10jab 13&15strng 18&20frc.png
Stun 0~6
Stun Timer 30


Frame Count 4 3 3 3 2 2
Simplified 4 6 3 4
Jab Strong Fierce Normal Clawless Vega rcf8&10jab 13&15strng 18&20frc.png Vega rcf7&11jab 12&16strng 17&21frc.png
Normal Clawless Normal Clawless Normal Clawless Vega rcf9jab 14strng 19frc.png Vega rcf9jab 14strng 19frc noclaw.png
Damage 32[9] 22[1] 32[3] 22[1] 34[3] 24[1]
Stun 9~15
Stun Timer 100
Frame Advantage +9(+8)
Frame Count 8 4 1
Simplified 8 5

Fierce roll is 4 hits of chip damage and good for finishing off a low-life opponent (note pun). Fierce & Strong rolls are not reliable and will often not combo all the hits even at close range. Jab roll should be your only one used, and is nice at pressuring from long range. The last hit of all rolls can be followed up with C.Jab or C.Strong which will combo. Time a jab roll so just the tip of the claw hits them on wakeup. It has a wide hitbox and will stay out and hit them after the invincible frames of their reversal.


  • Wall Dive: (Charge ↓, ↑, K)

Detailed Input: (Charge ↓ for at least 61f, [0~7f] ↑ [0~11/9/7/3f] Short/Forward/Roundhouse/any K if you are at a jumpable state. It is needed to wait at least 1 frame after leaving the charge direction to enter with the K button. In HSF2 for some odd reason this move can only be performed with a negative edge)

Vega dive1.png Vega dive2.png Vega dive3.png Vega dive4.png Vega dive5.png Vega kdive.png
Frame Count 1 2 1 6+ 5 40
Simplified 10+ 5 40
  • Flying Barcelona Attack: (P, while diving from Wall Dive)
Jab Strong Fierce Vega kdive fba1&3.png Normal Clawless Vega kdive fba1&3.png Vega kdive fba4.png
Normal Clawless Normal Clawless Normal Clawless Vega kdive fba2.png Vega kdive fba2 noclaw.png
Damage 28[3] 22[1] 30[3] 24[1] 32[3] 26[1]
Stun 9~15
Stun Timer 100
Super Meter 8
Frame Count 3 6 3
Simplified 3 6
  • Izuna Drop: (↖/↙/←/→/↘/↗ + P, while diving from Wall Dive)
Damage 34 Vega kdive id.png
Stun 7~13
Stun Timer 100
Range (from axis) 53
(from throwable box) 25
  • Landing frames:
Vega kdivelands1.png Vega kdivelands2.png Vega kdivelands3.png Vega kdivelands4.png
Frame Count 2 2 9 6
Simplified 13 6

By pressing ↖ or ↗, you control which wall Vega will jump to. With ↑ Vega will always go to the nearest wall.

Once airbourne, you have control over your speed by holding ← or →. With this, you can speed up and slow during the same jump, and 'curve' your flight around dragon punches / antiair normals.

Vega is slow when jumping towards the wall, then faster when he flies off it. You can minimize the delay by being at the very edge of the screen.

Vega has recovery frames after he lands, but if you hit with the claw from maximum range, you will land far enough away to be safe whether you connect or it's blocked.

The Barcelona attack has a huge hitbox and moves very fast, making it an exceptional hard to block crossup. If you knock down your opponent, you can repeat it over and over,

Every character has basic standing & jumping normals that will counter the wall dive. Using it randomly is often countered, so save it for wakeup, against fireballs, to run away when you're leading in health, and to bait counter-attacks.

Ryu - at full screen, you can Wall Dive in anticipation, and safely hold back if he does nothing, or catch him with the throw if he does a fireball.
Ken - Ken's Fierce DP will hit you even if you're holding back, so limit to ambiguous crossups.
Honda - if he's being a defensive turtle, you can crossup dive to cancel his headbutt charge, then come in from straight above to avoid the butt slam.
Chun - J.Short easily stuffs dives from any range. Get her with fakes or on wake-up only.
Blanka - Vertical Ball destroys the dive in every possible situation.
Zangief - His 3P Lariat beats most attacks, but you can hit his head cleanly with the tip of your claw while flying over him.
Guile - Flash kick still hits you even when he's facing the wrong direction, so use fakes from max range and Slide him if he falls for it.
Dhalsim - His normals hit you out of dives easily, but he has no wakeup options besides teleporting away.
Fei Long - Like Guile, limit yourself to fakes to bait a Flame Kick.
Cammy - Roundhouse Cannon Spike will get you from very long range, but if you cross up and attack from on top, you can make it miss.
T. Hawk - Same as Cammy - angle your dive high and fast to get behind his long range Rising Hawk.
Dee Jay - His Triple Kick is weak if you're right on top of him, so try to get him in a corner then go off that corner wall, to fall right on his head.
Balrog - Headbutts and C.Fierce beat dives every time, and fakes are easy for him to dash punch. Use very sparingly.
Vega - Vega can Flipkick a dive, or 3K backflip through one if he's crossed up or on wakeup. As long as you crossup, it's pretty safe to use.
Sagat - High fireballs tend to hit you if you're trying to ↗ cross him up. Stay on the ground against him.
Bison - He has no reversal and his air moves lose if you do the claw high and early. Dive on him all day long.

  • Sky High Claw: (Charge ↓, ↑, P)

Detailed Input: (Charge ↓ for at least 61f, [0~7f] ↑ [0~11/9/7/3f] Jab/Strong/Fierce/any P if you are at a jumpable state. It is needed to wait at least 1 frame after leaving the charge direction to enter with the K button)

Normal Clawless Vega dive1.png Vega dive2.png Vega dive3.png Vega dive4.png Vega dive5.png Vega pdive1.png
Damage 16[2] 16[1]
Stun 0~6
Stun Timer 30
Super Meter 8

Frame Count 1 2 1 6+ 5 33-
Simplified 10+ 5 33-
  • Claw attack: (P, while diving from Sky High Claw. The strength of the attack is determined by the P button you activated the Dive, not the one you're using to attack)
Jab Strong Fierce Vega pdivealt1.png Vega pdivealt2.png
Normal Clawless Normal Clawless Normal Clawless
Damage 28[3] 28[1] 30[3] 30[1] 32[3] 32[1]
Stun 0~6
Stun Timer 30
Frame Count (Jab) 20 13-
Frame Count (Strong) 16 17-
Frame Count (Fierce) 12 21-
  • Knockback/Vega dives full screen, crosses the opponent, but does not touches the end of screen, lands:
Vega pdivebounce1.png Vega pdivebounce2.png Vega pdivebounce3.png Vega pdivebounce4.png Vega pdivebounce5.png Vega pdivebounce6.png Vega pdivebounce7.png
Frame Count 5 4 3 4 5 23+/0 12
Simplified 44+/6+ 12
  • Vega dives full screen, touches the end of screen and then lands:
Vega pdive2.png Vega pdive3.png
Frame Count (Jab) 20 12
Frame Count (Strong) 13 12
Frame Count (Fierce) 8 12

By pressing ↖ or ↗, you control which wall Vega will jump to. With ↑ Vega will always go to the nearest wall.

Vega goes off the wall and shoots directly at the opponent with a claw. You do not have any control once in the air. Doing this with Jab will make him fly higher- this will hit jumpers, but completely miss someone on the ground. This move has a small chance of catching someone by surprise, but leaves you vulnerable if blocked. The best use of this move is against people who jump up to counter your Wall Dive, like Chun Li or M.Bison often do.

Against some fireballs like Guile's sonic and Sagat's low, you can wait until the fireball is close to you, then do this move so that the fireball passes under you as you are touching the back wall. It won't punish them, but gets you right next to them from full screen and is very surprising. This is good for chipping out the last hit of a nearly dead opponent.

  • Scarlet Terror a.k.a. Flip Kick: (Charge ↙, →, K)

Detailed Input: (Charge ↙ for at least 71f, [0~7f] → [0~10/9/7f] Short/Forward/Roundhouse. It is needed to wait at least 1 frame after leaving the charge direction to enter with the K button. There is a bug in the input of this move which allows you to still keep the charge if you go to ↖ or ←, but only after you charged ↙ for at least 71 frames. In HSF2 this was fixed, but it has a "hidden" version of Vega which still has this bug. To select it, hold start while choosing the character version, if done right you'll hear a different sound)

  • Startup + Active:
Short Forward Rh Vega st1.png Vega st2.png Vega st3.png Normal Forward, Clawless
Normal Clawless Normal Clawless Normal Clawless Vega st4.png Vega st4frwrd noclaw.png
Damage 20[1] 20[1] + 12[1] 20[1] + 14[1]
Stun 0~4 0~4 + 0~4
Stun Timer 20 20 + 20
Frame Advantage -12 / -6 -14 / -8 -16 / -10(-11)
Super Meter 10
Frame Count (Short) 2 3 6 5
Simplified (Short) 5 11
Frame Count (Forward) 2 3 6 5
Simplified (Forward) 5 11
Frame Count (Rh) 2 3 6 5
Simplified (Rh) 5 6 5
  • Recovery:
Vega st5.png Vega st6.png Vega st7.png Vega st8.png Vega st9.png Vega st10.png Vega st11.png
Frame Count (Short) 4 3 2 3 2 4 5
Simplified (Short) 23
Frame Count (Forward) 4 3 2 3 2 4 7
Simplified (Forward) 25
Frame Count (Rh) 4 3 2 3 2 4 9
Simplified (Rh) 27

Vega's reversal/counter move. The Roundhouse version hits twice, and another Rh flip kick can be combo'd immediately after to juggle (unless your opponent is in the corner). To do so, after the K input for the first flip kick, start charging again ↙, then wait for Vega to reach the last stage of his flip kick animation (when he touches the floor with his feet but is not yet in normal standing mode) then press →, K. If you mess the timing, Vega will probably whiff a normal kick. Some characters are easier to combo than others.
Use Roundhouse as anti-air to juggle for big damage, and Short to counter ground moves - it's quick recovery gives you a chance to throw if you miss.
An unknown property of this move is that Vega will actually do more damage with the Forward and Roundhouse versions if he is not wielding his claw. Plus, if Vega's clawless then the Forward will chip for 2 hits as well as have a different hitbox on that second hit.

Super Move

  • Rolling Izuna Drop: (Charge ↓, → ← ↑ + K. Hitting any punch when next to the opponent performs the super. Otherwise, he will just do a regular Wall Dive)

Detailed Input: (Charge ↓ for at least 61f, [0~14f] → [0~14f] ← [0~14f] ↑ [0~15/3f] K/if you are at a jumpable state)

Damage 20 + 20 + 34[1] Vega super.png
Stun 7~13
Stun Timer 100
Range (from axis) 53
(from throwable box) 25

By pressing ↖ or ↗, you control which wall Vega will jump to. With ↑ Vega will always go to the nearest wall.

This move behaves exactly like the Wall Dive. Unlike future Capcom games, the super is not activated until the throw connects. You can still press P to claw attack normally.

Vega can charge his super meter in a couple seconds with 3K flips. Although the super isn't easy to connect with, it is still a very threatening option: Opponents have to assume every Wall Dive is real, or risk losing half their health in one shot. This makes it much easier to bait Dragon Punches and punish their mistakes.

The Basics

Punch Wall Dive / Sky High Claw

Punch Wall Dive (AKA. PWD) is a super-fast (under certain conditions), low priority (defeated by many normals), overcomplicated (jumps all around the screen), long recovery (some chars can punish it even after a successful hit!), good damage (with claw extended does about same damage as a throw) and a generally speaking weird tool.

Some sporadical uses:

  • Chip Damage Finisher:

Special, super-fast, chaotic and “jumping all over the screen” are perfect features for dealing the last point of chip damage. Just PWD on the back wall and flight towards the opponent in a righteous blitz of glory. If the enemy expects this, he will go to a corner and start looping a nt.jump.attack. Note that vs a jumping enemy, medium and strong versions have like a 30% of failing the enemy completely, but weak version seems to be 100% precise. If you miss you will be the one punished, but if you hit you win.

If the opponent really expects a PWD finisher, a better strategy may be to step forward, do a claw roll to the air to look like you "are going to engage in brave melee combat", and then just after the roll do the PWD. To special cancel into a PWD makes it much more difficult to react for the opponent.

  • Fireball Counter:

If opponent launches a fireball, you can use PWD on your back wall to fly over the fireball and hit him. But it is tricky. Weak PWD will always go over the fireball, but it will also completely miss a non-jumping target. Heavy PWD is the "closest to the ground", so to speak, and has the biggest chance of hitting the firewall. Medium PWD has the biggest chance of success. The more far away Claw is from the back wall he is jumping, the easiest is to evade the fireball. Being just next to the back wall, Claw needs to react with perfect precision, jumping just when the fireball is about to hit him.

Normally the opponent is picked by surprise, or in the process of doing a second fireball. But if he reacts, he may block or even defeat the PWD with just a weak punch due to PWD low priority.

Wall Dive

Is important to understand that the essence of a successful wall dive is to catch the opponent by surprise. Try to do wall dives when the opponent doesnt expect a wall dive (for example, special cancel normals/combos into a wall dive). Dont do wall dives when the opponent expects a wall dive (for example, both chars, each in a corner. And the enemy is waiting, sitting there, doing nothing. Dont do a wall dive, he is prepared).

For non-claw players there is only one "wall dive". But actually this special is very dynamic and allows for a lot of different variations:

  • Normal Back Wall Dive:

Vega jumps on his back wall, and goes for a straightforward wall dive claw attack on his opponent. This is what the opponent normally expects, and it is the base of our game. In general, this can be countered with a nt.jp.anything or a DP.

  • Fake Back Wall Dive:

Vega looks like is going to do a "Back Wall dive", but... during the attack flight, move the controller back and brake. If the enemy is a cornered Ryu/Guile, for example, and he makes a Dragon Punch/Flash Kick, he will miss miserably, and Claw can punish him during his recovery. Some chars (like Ken or Blanka) have DP with so much range that they can hit fake wall dives, so Fake Wall Dives vs them are not a good idea.

Fake Back Wall dives can be looped and mixed with Normal Back Wall Dives. The opponent will take great risk if he chooses to keep DP your wall dives. If the opponent decides to be lazy and simply starts blocking, stop doing claw attacks with the wall dives and go for grab attacks or even super. That will teach him.

Last but no least, a Fake Back Wall Dive can become a normal Back Wall Dive in the middle of the air (for example, if the opponent does a DP with too much anticipation. Your initial "fake wall dive" can just go to him and claw/grab him).

  • Fast Back Wall Dive:

Each char is sitting in a corner. And the enemy is a "fireballer". Vega has his Wall Dive Charge ready. Just wait a little, the fireballer will probably lose his cool and launch a (he thinks) "safe" fireball. Immediately, Vega does a wall dive in his wall (remember he is already in his corner, so Vega reaches the wall with no travel), and then move the controller forward to give the attack flight maximum speed. Go for a claw attack. Depending of your timing, you might even cross the opponent and hit him with the claw from behind.

Some opponents are ready for this, and react by cancelling his fireball into a DP. Generally speaking, Vega has to make the attack with good timing or risks being punished.

  • Anti-air Back Wall Dive:

Do you remember that a Normal Back Wall Dive can be stopped simply by doing a nt.jp.something? As the Claw Tacticians we are, when we know what the enemy will try, we know what kind of Wall Dive we need.

Normally wall dives will extend the claw to hit an enemy in the ground. The thing is that it takes a small amount of time to extend the claw, so you just hit the button a little before entering the range of the ground enemy, to compensate for this delay. When the opponent “jumps towards you”, he messes with your claw timing, and even if you hit then the claw button then, he will be faster with his jump normal attack.

In the anti-air-wall dive, you already are expecting this nonsense to happen. So… you are going to press the extend claw button even earlier. Maybe even as soon as after leaving the back wall. This way, when the opponent tries to intercept you in the middle of the air (as we already planned), he will find that the claw is already extended and waiting for him.

Evidently, if the enemy doesn't try to intercept us in the air with a jump, claw will probably just hit the air and flight to the opposite side of the screen (maybe being punished in the meanwhile).

Advanced Strategy

Combos

  • cr.Forward, cr.Forward, C.Strong: link combo that is easier on wakeup, but still works normally from point-blank range.
  • j.Fierce or j.Roundhouse, cr.Forward, cr.Strong: simple combo off an aerial attack. You may cancel the cr.Strong into a special for meter or pressure.
  • cr.Forward xx RH Flipkick, RH Flipkick: punish combo from point-blank range. This doesn't juggle in the corners.
  • cr.Jab, Jab Roll, cr.Strong: another punish combo from point-blank range.
  • cl.Fierce or cl.Roundhouse, cr.Strong: not a practical combo, but sometimes you get a cl.Fierce when you're trying to throw, and you can link the strong on reaction.

Match-ups

Matchups classified with this diagram in mind. For the old characters I guessed the positions.

--Born2SPD

Serious Advantage Match-ups

Vs. Guile:

  • 7 - 3

Flash kick manages to hit wall dives at just about any angle. You can safely angle away and punish his missed Flash Kick with a slide. His turtle game doesn't work well against Vega, just push him into the corner and pin him down with c.jab, s.medium, s.fierce, and slide. He has normals that can beat each of these, but you have a major speed and range advantage on normals and usually win anyways. -MDV

Vs. Sagat:

  • 7.5 - 2.5

Vega's great jump gives him an easier time against fireball zoners. Stand half a screen away from him and wait. Jump over fireballs and punish. Watch for whiffed Tiger Knees and jumping roundhouse and be ready to Flip Kick. There's not a whole lot else to worry about against him.

Vs. T. Hawk:

  • 7 - 3

I stay standing the entire game. S.Fierce pushes him away from half screen. S.Medium is good and fast if he gets closer and is looking to tick. S.Roundhouse hits jump ins and dives. (do it early). Once he gets you cornered, he has option selects that you can't get out of, so always be carefully watching your distance. Poke him with a C.strong into a wall dive and safely fly over him if you're in danger. -MDV



T Hawk is a uber-strong (normals hit as hard as Zangief’s), uber-prioritised (all his normals and air normals are between the highest priority normals in the game, way beyond Claw ground and air normals), flying-jet (he can “almost instantly” get to grab distance using his weird falcon powers) bloodthirsty-killing-machine (once he gets into grab distance, he will splash Vega head against the pavement again and again).


So, the most important point is, don't let T.Hawk start a special grab loop on you. That means keeping a safe distance from him in all times. It also mean“DONT LET T.HAWK TOUCH YOU WITH HIS PUNCHES!!!!. Doesn’t matter if the punches are blocked or not, after a punch both chars are already in grab distance for T.Hawk special grab. And that is game over for Claw. T.Hawk kicks are a little long range, so if he kicks Claw in the face, that is ok, Claw still has a chance of escape.


DONT TRY TO DEFEAT T.HAWK IN MELEE OR AIR!!!! If you are interchanging normals with T.Hawk, not only you are very close to punch distance and being special grabbed, you will probably receive more than you are giving. T.Hawk makes like 75% more damage with each attack, and they have more priority. Even in the air is the same. He is just better at everything in close-air combat. With one exception: the claw attack from a claw roll defeats his normals due to his good range and priority (rolls are vulnerable to Hawk normals).


Wall dive/Wall dive loop: His Falcon Rise reaches fake wall dives the same way as Ken shoriuken, and his air normals can defeat wall dives if he reacts on time. After a countered wall dive/wall dive loop, T.Hawk can position at “grab-distance” from Claw, and as soon as Claw awakens T.Hawk will start his special grab loop game. That is Bye Bye for Claw. So, in general, wall dives are not safe.


Now, It looks pretty bad for Claw, but he has three good weapons: st.HK, st.HP and flipkick (flipkick is used in the same cases as st.HK, but makes more damage and is faster). The basic strategy is that T.Hawk will try to get closer using several techniques, and Claw has to react with the appropriate counter for each technique. If Claw stops enough incoming attacks, he wins. Each time T.Hawk pierces though Claw defences, he has a chance of winning the game.


Lets see the T.Hawk strategy to get closer:

1 - He can walk in: Use st.HP as soon as he is in claw-range and keep him away. Remember that if you are charging flipkick, you can store the charge moving backwards, use st.HP, and return to crouch without losing the charge.

2 - He can jump in: Use st.HK/Flipkick. His jump-in is a little slow and easy to counter. Sometimes T.Hawk players get berserk with jumps-ins, don't be afraid and use the same st.HK/flipkick all the time.

3 - Falcon Rise (FR): This is a reversal-antiair, but it has so much horizontal displacement that is useful to move forward. During its beginning it counters Vega slide. Use st.HK/Flipkick without fear.

4 - Falcon Dive (FD): Super Dangerous. There are two classes of FD T.Hawk can use: "far FD" and "close FD". A "far FD" is when the attack is too far away misses (for example. T.Hawk is at long distance from Claw, and uses FD to reach medium distance). A far FD happens so far away from Claw that he cannot punish it with st.HK/flipkick. The recovery of the "missed FD" is theoretically punishable, but if Claw punish is not perfectly timed, T.Hawk can reversal into a Falcon Rise and punish the intent of being punished. In addition, to reversal into a FR after the FD allows T.Hawk to travel more horizontal distance and get very close to Claw. The "far FD" is the beginning of a 2 step strategy, and normally, it is easier for Claw to counter the second part (a FR or a jump-in).

The "close FD" is the worst. It is super-fast and If he hits you with this, blocking or not, you are in his “special grab” area. Use st.HK/Flipkick, and be super-ready.


Now. What about if Claw wants to take the war to T.Hawk? Remember that in melee vs melee and air vs air T.hawk is better. The best tool to put a little of pressure in T.Hawk may be to tip him with the roll claw. Makes good damage, has more priority and range that his normals, and may even stop a FD/FR.


If you, Claw player, manage to stop enough of T.Hawk “incomings”, he may sit in a corner and start doing silly things like saying “come on, come for me, I am just a little 400 pounds indian boy”. Don't fall for it. Remember that you need super-reflexes in order to stop his incomings, if you are distracted attacking, it is easier for him to get you. And never, never, wall dive him if he is crying in a corner. He is expecting something like that. Doing claw rolls here if OK.


If you, Claw player, after giving your best, end yourself trapped in T.hawk “special grab loop”, smashing 3K and 3P may get you out of there (T.Hawk is not stupid, he will try to follow you during the backflip. But the backflip may mess with his complicated special grab input and give you a change to grab him instead and escape). Another option is the reversal flipkick with piano. But remember that these are desperate measures. -Bimblis

Vs. O. T. Hawk:

Advantage Match-ups

Vs. Blanka:

  • 6.5 - 3.5

This matchup gave me trouble too for a while. Once you learn it though you'll get better at it.

Charge back/Walk backward the whole round. If he balls, you can either flip kick through it, try one of the other counters suggested, or block, take a small step forward, standing fierce. Sounds basic, but this one strategy of stting there with Vega is good enough. Eventually, especially if you have a lead, he has to try something to come to you.Funny, cause doing anything else can be trouble with Blanka. Wake up balls or electricity can stop cross over wall dives. If the Blanka is good at wake up balls, it can stop doing meaty Claw Rolls on top of him. Just keep him out and wear him down. Don't go into his meathouse.

In the original everything ST thread DSP broke this match down pretty good [1] and it helped me out. See if you can find it somewhere. (CapMaster)
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Claw VS Blanka is a funny match. Most struggle with it at first, but once you learn it it can become a free win for you.

Sit back. Any blocked rolling attack is a free standing fierce for you. You catch them with this a few times, they may try to do a jab or strong ball into throw/hop/whatever. Watch for this, then sweep it. You can flipkick balls too of course. Use crouching strong to keep him away. be careful going for wall dives, as both rolling attacks and electricity can beat it. Sit back, and by never let him get into his cross up short range. That's where this match is lost. Keep him out of that range and you will whittle him down. (CapMaster again)

Good Blankas aren't going to roll or rainbow roll at you since they'll get stabbed for it every time. Instead, they know the range of their jab & strong rolls perfectly, and use those to stop right in front of you and throw before you react from block. If you're going against this kind of Blanka, walk forward until you're in your S.Fierce range and keep him there, and throw out a lot of c.Strong to interrupt his rolls. If you get caught up close and he starts repeat crossup jumps, you can neutral jump and hit jab immediately on the way up to hit him out of it. -MDV
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Probably one of the most obvious matches for Claw: easy but you must avoid the walldive loop!

P - A - T - I - E - N - C - E

Here is the key word. Your best weapons are your powerful zoning, Scarlet Terror, and patience. Sit fullscreen, keep a finger on MP, another on HK, charge down-back and get some beer.

Here are classic attacks from Blanka and the behavior you must have against them.

j.LK: the famous cross up. If he is using it, it means you have let him come to close to you! Scarlet Terror or Flip Kick will give you some fresh air and then try to use more anti-air like cr.HP, st.HK, Scarlet Terror or nj.LP. Do not forget this last one, its range is impressive.

Blanka's slide: this damn tool has 11 frames of start up and yours would beat it in terms of hit boxes, but you can't punish it on reaction even if yours is faster to come out (8 frames of start up). Stun timer is very long, so do not attempt to punish it on block. Block and wait, slide requires your opponent to make an aggressive move, be patient and punish the next one!

Electricity: another Blanka attack that knocks you down. Your options are:

At close range: st.LK. At mid range: Wait, and do not try to use cr.MK because it's too risky due to a potential trade which could result in a Blanka advantage on your wake up. At long range: Slide.

Horizontal ball: This is the key to the match, for both characters. This move can be stopped by any of your standing normal moves, or by a 3 hit Scarlet Terror. You can even punish this move after blocking by walking a few pixels and then doing a st.HP. Huge damage, and despair for Blanka. On the other hand, be careful because Blanka can do a short range ball to get very close to you and then throw you when you're waiting to block one. cr.LP is pretty useful on reaction if Blanka does a fullscreen ball.

3rd Attack, Upball: This is what makes the walldive loop almost impossible to set up on Blanka. Nevertheless, if you press punch very early in the air after doing a walldive, you will win in the air - but do not try to attempt the loop at close range. If you want to bait Blanka into using upball, you should use forward jumping j.HP or nj.LP. This should make Blanka frustrated. This is the key to this match up, to make the opponent get MAD! The first one that loses his nerve will lose this match very quickly.

The backstep kick ball is a joke, just do st.HK or Scarlet Terror.

This match up is evil. It's a waiting game, waiting for the opponent to make a mistake for both characters. --Hanasu, from ISIMORN here: [2]

Vs. Cammy:

  • 6 - 4

First learn her safety zones. If you block a max range short drill or thrust kick (DP), you cannot punish and usually eat another short DP. Once you've got that, sit back, block her specials, c.strong poke if she comes in, and flip kick away jumps. All she has left is Hooligan throws which grab from farther away then it looks. Be watching for them and flip kick those too. -MDV


This matchup is 6 - 4, it can be hard for Claw. The match is based on defense, reactions, and being patient.

Cammy's Strengths:

- High priority Normal Moves: st.LP, cr.MP, cr. MK

- The best airthrow in the game

- A lot of Invicible properties on various moves: DP active on the fourth frame. LP Spin Knuckle lower-body invincible for 33 frames. Super is invincible for 40 frames.

- Hooligan Throw is very quick, and does a lot of damage

- Good crossup stun combos on wake up (especially against Claw, who has a low stun value)

All these things may seem scary but Claw has powerful weapons, including his great ability to punish: Against DP? Punish with cr.MP. Against Drill? Punish with cr.MP. Against Hooligan? Punish with st.LP on reaction. When Cammy is knocked down? Do walldive loop. Cammy is poking at mid screen? Get ready to punish a potential Hooligan. Be patient. Against Spin Knuckle? Slide. Cammy tries to Spin Knuckle a poke? Block!

Cammy has no particularly good way to attack Claw, all she can do is bore you to death and try to Hooligan. --Hanasu from ISIMORN here: [3]

Vs. Chun-Li:

  • 6 - 4

Chun has one zone where she can jump in at you, thats when she is near you and you're not charged, too close to jump straight up and fierce and if you're not charged you cant flip kick which is the only counter at this range. What does this mean? dont let her get you in that range. Stay close and charged, if she fireballs, jump at her. poke with low strongs. Slide to move in on her and sometimes hit her as she tries to fireball. Basically you play close turtle style if possible. Imo its advantage vega that matchup. (Graham)
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I like to be ready to pounce on any kikoken she throws. I go for wall dives from across the screen when I see one, or if in close if she throws one hop it and go for a combo. Without a\ having her upkicks charged, chun li has trouble stopping a jumping Claw with her ground moves. I play this match by being aggressive and just going at Chun. Her air moves beat yours, even though jump strong sometimes is effective. She also has some trouble stopping wall dives shenanigans, her upkick has to be perfect. Stay on offense. You lose this match if Chun can press you. (CapMaster)

Vs. Dee Jay:

  • 6 - 4

DJ's Up-Kicks is terrible against Vega. Jump in from close with early j.roundhouse to stuff it. Wall dive directly on top of him and you can claw stuff him or connect with the grab from behind. And wake up kicks whiff against c.medium, c.roundhouse, and rolls. Just abuse him with dives and put heavy wakeup pressure on him once he's down. -MDV

Vs. Dhalsim:

  • 6.5 - 3.5

Dhalsim is better at fullscreen and better at close range. Vega wants to be just outside sweep range. Spam him with c.strong to interrupt Fires & Flames and slow normals. Learn the different angles of Yoga Drill and when you can or can't counter/jump away. If you're stuck at far range, you can hit some limbs with S.Medium or J.Fierce. You can also provoke him by repeat 3K handspring to charge your super. Once you knockdown, you can fierce roll, c.jab, jab roll for large chip pressure. Against wall dives, Dhalsim can Yoga Blast, j.roundhouse, Yoga Mummy or teleport. They're all effective but they all have openings. If your opponent always counters the same way, you can change your angle of approach and get in on him. -MDV

Vs. E. Honda:

  • 6 - 4

When I play this match, I usually go either one or two ways. One is to get a lead, and run away/turtle. The second is if you get a knockdown, go for cross up wall dives until he stops it. By cross up, I mean change his direction that he's facing so he loses the charge for his headbutt, which will very much stop your wall dives. It's not inflailable, he can sumo smash out of it (you won't always get hit though) but it's in your favor going for this.

For the turtle method, a well timed jump back fierce will stuff a headbutt if he trys it. Otherwise, try to keep your flick kick charged to get fierce headbutts. You do this a few times, sometimes Honda may try to a jab headbutt to make you flip kick on reaction, then punish you as you recover. Learn to recognize this, and slide him as he's landing from the jab headbutt. When you get the lead, Honda eventually is gonna HAVE to come at you in some way or form. Just be ready to counter his offensive options. If Honda gets you in the corner and he's close, you're probably gonna lose. Try to stay a little outside of the range of his fierce hands. Vega (Claw) can win this fight. The challenge is that Honda just has many more ways to do so.

-CapMaster

Don't poke. Trading hits with Honda is always a losing game. Don't even risk it. The best place to stay is just outside his roundhouse Sumo Splash. From there, you can just hold neutral jump and hop forever. Neutral Jump MK beats headbutt, pushes away splash, and beats all air-to-air, and can kick him out of hands. Just do this forever and mix in cross-up wall dives and fake-out wall dives to keep him guessing. Be careful about wall diving if you're midscreen - if he headbutts, the screen will scroll, you will miss the wall and land on him.

-MDV

Vs. Fei Long:

  • 6.5 - 3.5

Avoid being in the corner since it's very hard to get out. Get him at sweep range and throw out a lot of c.medium which will stuff rekkas. If you're knocked down, always low block the meaty, it's not worth 40% + possible dizzy if you screw up against his powerful meaty game. Max range jab roll with stuff flame kicks with the tip of the claw. -MDV

Vs. Ken:

  • 6 - 4

Because of Vega's foot speed and narrow jump, he can get through fireballs easier than most. Use that mobility to control the distance. Hold defensive crouch at max cr.strong range. You can jump a fireball and combo on reaction. You can Flip Kick a jump or a hurricane on reaction (watch out for short hurricanes which are bait). Poke c.jab and c.strong to hit normals and interrupt fireballs, but do so rarely and carefully to avoid DPs. Hold your zone and you're fine. If Ryu is playing annoying Air Hurricane games, you can hit 3K early and throw while they land. When you knockdown, do a meaty claw roll that hits with the tip on wakeup, this will stop a DP.

Once you learn wall dive momentum well enough, you can connect with a super through anything. If you knockdown from far away - wall dive and hold towards the opponent when you hit the wall to speed up, then hold back at the last moment. You will sort of hover just in front them and can grab their DP right out of the air after its invincibility frames. -MDV

Vs. O. Ken:

Vs. Ryu:

  • 6 - 4

Very similar to the Ken matchup.

Vs. O. Sagat:

Slide under high tigers or c.strong if you're close enough. You don't want to wall dive fireballs even in anticipation since he can always recover in time and DP. -MDV

Vs. Zangief:

  • 6.5 - 3.5

Keep away all day. Wall dive and press punch very early. Angle it so your claw lands on top of his head, and you'll beat out cyclones clean. Jab roll > c.strong from max range to chip a little and push him away. Reversal wall dive isn't going to hit him, but can get you out of some tight situations. -MDV


The essence of Zangief strategy consists in getting closer to Claw in order to destroy him with his powerful arsenal of combos and special grabs. As such, the essence of Claw strategy consists in keeping Zangief away. In order to accomplish this, first we need to understand how Zangief will try to get closer:

1 - Zangief walks in: Claw has a surprise called st.mk. If Zangief tries to walk in, just kick him with this again and again until he changes tactic.

2 - Zangief uses a normal poke(cr.HK): Zangief cr.HK is fast, medium range, excellent priority and knocks down. Claw st.mk has the same range, is equally fast, and both attacks miss each other completely. This is very important, because Zangief mixes cr.HK with lariats.

3 - Zangief tries to use Lariat: St.mk is the only Claw attack that defeats lariats AND coexists with Zangief cr.HK. Any other Claw standing normal defeats one and is defeated by the other. So Claw should use st.mk vs lariats. Claw slide works vs lariats, but Zangief can do short Lariats at mid range as bait for a slide, block, and then do a cr.HK or jump in during slide recovery (bye bye Claw).

4 - Zangief tries to jump in: He is very slow in his jumping. Use the st.HK to kick him out of the air.

These 4 steps are the workhorse of Claw strategy. The stuff you will use 90% of time. The other 10% are improvised jump-ins, wall dives, punch wall dives, claw rolls and slides. The thing here is that when Zangief is obsessed to counter Claw st.mk and st.hk, he reacts more slowly to any other thing and is very vulnerable. -Bimblis

Fair Match-ups

Vs. Balrog (boxer):

  • 4.5 - 5.5

His normals are overpowering up close and his grab & followups are too good. Slide, C.strong, and occasional jab roll to hit him out of dash punches. Once he's down, you can safe jump against headbutts. Keep it simple and stick to your zone game. Getting fancy doesn't help when one grab can cost you the round. -MDV


5 - 5 or maybe a light disadvantage for Claw.

You need to avoid absolutely getting throw looped. It will drive you crazy.

Do-not-Do list: DO NOT use punch backflip (54 invincible frames + 9 of recovery). If you are trying to escape throw loop or general pressure you might be tempted to use kick backflip (30 invincible frames and 9 of recovery) - you must choose either reversal Scarlet Terror or reversal throw!

DO NOT walldive when you are behind in life, because Boxer may start turtling with Headbutt and jumpback MP.

DO NOT Sky High Claw if Boxer has back charge, because Dash Straight could be a direct punish on block.

DO NOT attempt walldive loop because reversal Headbutt on wake up could give more space to Boxer or even worse: it could hit you.

DO NOT poke at all when Boxer has Super even if he is full screen.

Be careful about auto correct Super if you walldive.

So.. what options remain for Claw to fight Boxer?

Stay focused during throw loop to know on which side to block/charge. Reversal throw as an option after throw loop/crossunder. Scarlet Terror against various dash punches.

Slide is a good tool!

cr.MP as well, but don't over-use it because of Headbutt or Super.

Headbutt is very susceptible to safe jumping, block it and punish! It has 11 frames of start up. --Hanasu 20:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC) from ISIMORN here: [4]

Vs. M. Bison (dictator):

  • 5 - 5

I still am struggling with this match, but here's what I can tell you. Bison has no reversal outside of super. So everytime you get him knocked down, that's a free claw roll or wall dive attempt for you. Bison's kicks (scissors, standing forward, crouching forward) will give you major trouble, and his jump strong will neutralize your air attacks. Have your eyes ready to try to flip kick any scissor kick or psycho crusher so you can get that all important knockdown.To me, this match goes the first one to get a knockdown wins. Keep Dictator on the floor. (CapMaster)

Air to air, he has a major advantage, but j.strong hits some of his attacks, and an early neutral jump j.medium hits him out of everything. All his moves bring him to you, so use that to your advantage. Walk back to the corner and stand 2 steps in front of it. Often times his moves will push himself past you into the corner. Then you can wail away on him with c.strongs and fierce roll chip. Just wail away on the c.strongs, they interrupt all his moves except super, and all his long range normal kicks. -MDV

Vs. Vega (claw-self):

Major pain in the ass fight. Neutral J.Medium is good air-to-air, as is J.Strong. If you're getting wall dived on, do an early 3K handspring to go through the claw and throw as they land. -MDV


This fight may come in two flavours. The opponent may be Wall Dive Loop Claw, or a Full Toolset Claw.

1 - Vs Wall Dive Loop Claw: The enemy bases his strategy in wall dives, wall dive loops, and fear. So you need tools to defend against wall dives. The best tool is to do the same stuff that Honda does. Wait patiently, and when opponent Claw starts the wall dive, do a nt.jp.mp or backwards jp.mp and intercept the wall dive in middle air.

It is also possible to evade a wall dive with a backflip. But... if you wrong the timing, sometimes the opponent can recover first and attack you with cr.mp. Nevertheless, backflip may be the best solution if the enemy manages to start a wall dive loop (wall dive loop involves a lot of crossing up, and that depletes the flipkick charge, so flipkick is not a good option). Also remember that wall dive loops dont work in corners, so that place may be safer.

If wall dives are the only tool of your opponent, or he is very predictable with them, to learn to intercept wall dives in middle air will give you a great advantage. Also note that maybe your opponent doesnt know how to intercept wall dives in middle air.

2 - Vs Full Toolset Claw: The enemy is one of those Claw players that don't recur only in wall dives and uses all the Claw techniques. You may not seen any wall dive loop in any round. There is not much to say. Both Claws will go on super-offensive-fast game and may the best Claw win. :P -Bimblis

Disadvantage Match-ups

None!

Serious Disadvantage Match-ups

None!