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Revision as of 02:54, 6 December 2007
- 1 Notation
- 2 Game Mechanics
- 3 Strategy
- 4 Tiers
- 5 The Characters
- 6 Game Versions
- 7 Miscellaneous
- 8 The Yoga Book Hyper
- 9 Other ST Links
- F - Forward - Tilt stick forward/towards the opponent. (X-axis)
- B - Backward/Back - Tilt stick backward/away from the opponent. (X-axis)
- U - Up - Tilt stick upwards. (Y-axis)
- D - Down - Tilt stick downwards. (Y-axis)
- QCF - Quarter circle forward/Hadouken/Fireball - Tilt stick downwards, then to downwards and forward, then forward.
- QCB - Quarter circle backward - Tilt stick downwards, then to downwards and backward, then backward.
- HCF - Half circle forward - Tilt stick backwards, then to downwards and backward, then to downward, then to downwards and forward, then forward.
- HCB - Half circle backward - Tilt stick forwards, then to downwards and forward, then to downward, then to downwards and backward, then backward.
- DP - Dragon punch - Tilt stick forwards, then to downward, then to downward and forward.
- 360/FC - Full circle - Complete a full rotation of the stick.
- 720 - N/A - Complete a 720 degree rotation of the stick.
- Charge - Hold a tilt - Hold the stick in either B or D (Depending) then move to F or U respectively.
X-axis functions can be used interchangeably with Y-axis functions and vice versa. X-axis functions cannot be used in conjunction with another X-axis function and vice versa.
Six Button Notation
- Jab - weak punch
- Strong - medium punch
- Fierce - fierce punch
- P - any punch
- PPP or 3P - all three punches simultaneously
- Short - weak kick
- Forward - medium kick
- Roundhouse (RH) - fierce kick
- K = any kick
- KKK or 3K - all three kicks simultaneously
--NKI 14:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- O. X - Where X is a character. e.g. O.Ryu. The Old version of the Ryu character.
- N. X - Where X is a character. e.g. N.Ryu. The New (relatively speaking) version of the Ryu character.
- ~ = Immediately after, e.g "Strong~Fierce" means press Fierce IMMEDIATELY after Strong
- st. - The following move should be performed in the standing position (neutral in the Y-axis). i.e. st.Fierce, perform a Fierce whilst standing.
- cr. - The following move should be performed in the crouched position (held down in the Y-axis). i.e. cr.Fierce, perform a Fierce whilst crouching.
- j. - The following move should be performed in the "in the air" position (After having held up in the Y-axis). i.e. j.Fierce, perform a Fierce whilst in the air.
- WW = World Warrior
- CE = Champion Edition
- HF = Hyper Fighting = SF2T = Street Fighter 2 Turbo
- SSF2 = Super Street Fighter 2
- ST = Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo
- TAP = Boxer's Turn Around Punch (hold 3P or 3K, then release)
- Claw = American Vega = Japanese Balrog
- Boxer = American Balrog = Japanese Bison
- Dictator (Dic) = American Bison = Japanese Vega
Not everyone plays on the American version, and some character names are different in the Japanese version, so to avoid confusion, we should not use the names Vega, Bison, or Balrog.
--NKI 14:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
A reversal is defined as any time you go from a non-neutral state directly into a move (normal, special, super, or throw), without ever going to neutral state. A non-neutral state is any state that your opponent inflicts on you: block stun, hit stun, getting up after being knocked down, dizzy, or being knocked out of the air.
Easiest example: your opponent knocks you down, and as you're getting up, you time a DP perfectly so that it comes out on the first frame possible. You never go to neutral state - you go directly from getting up animation to DP animation. You get a reversal message, and 1000 points! (Note that you only get a reversal message for specials and supers.)
Also called "softening a throw". When your opponent throws you, enter a throw command (back or towards plus Strong or Fierce or Forward or RH) within 13 frames, and you will take half the damage and recover in th air. Note that you can tech with buttons that do not correspond to your character's throws. For example, Chun can tech with Forward or RH kick, even though she can't throw with those buttons. Grabs such as Blanka's, Boxer's, Dhalsim's Noogie, etc can not be teched. See "Throw For The Win" in the Advanced Strategy section below.
After being hit by a juggle-able move, any juggle-able special move can juggle for up to 2 hits (except Sagat's Tiger Uppercut, which can juggle for up to 4 hits). Any non-throw super can juggle for up to 4 hits.
Juggle-able special moves:
- Akuma - Forward and RH Hurricane Kicks, DPs
- Balrog - super
- Blanka - super
- Cammy - super
- Chun-Li - upkicks, super
- Dee Jay - Forward and RH upkicks, super
- Dhalsim - super
- E. Honda - super
- Fei Long - Chicken Wing (his Tiger Knee move), super
- Guile - super
- Ken - super
- M. Bison - j.Strong, super
- Ryu - j.Strong, super
- Sagat - Tiger Uppercut, super
- T. Hawk - none
- Vega - Flip Kick
- Zangief - none
Simply being a juggle-able move does not mean that it can juggle at any time. The opponent must first be hit by a juggle-able move, then you can follow it up with a juggle. For example, Chun can do upkicks (3 hits) to knock the opponent out of the air, then juggle with the super for 2 more hits. However, she can not follow up with a juggle super after knocking the opponent out of the air with a fireball, because the fireball is not a juggle-able move.
Kara canceling is when you cancel a normal move immediately into a special or super move. The cancel is done so quickly that you don't even see the normal move come out (but you can hear it). By itself, kara canceling is really not that useful in ST aside from one small glitch. (For several characters, you can shorten the recovery time of a Strong or Fierce fireball by kara canceling a Jab or Short. See T.Akiba's frame data.) However, kara canceling is extremely useful when used in conjunction with renda canceling...
Chain Canceling (formerly known as "Renda Canceling")
In Japanese, "renda" 連打 is the word they use for rapid-fire chain combos, like cr.Short->cr.Short. In old school Street Fighter (in the pre-Alpha games), you can not cancel chain combos. If you chain two cr.Shorts, you can not cancel the second one. Using kara canceling however, you can get around this limitation. This is called chain canceling ("renda canceling", in Japanese).
The best example is probably the most practical example: Ken's cr.Short->cr.Short xx super. The input is D Short, D Short, D/F, F, D, D/F, F Short any punch. So in order to do TWO cr.Shorts into super, you actually need to hit the Short button THREE times. That st.Short on the end is being kara canceled into the super, which is why you never see it. Also note that you must go all the way to towards (even though Ken's super motion only requires you to go to down/towards). This is because for chain canceling, you must switch from crouching to standing (or from standing to crouching). Because you started with cr.Shorts, you have to end with a st.Short.
The reason why chain canceling is so incredibly good is because you can hit confirm (wait to see if it hits or not). If the shorts are blocked, go for a throw or a DP. If the shorts connect, just continue the combo into super.
Throws and Dizzy mechanics are based off of two cpu measurements: how fast you react, and how quickly and specifically how you mash.
You have to react within 13 frames in order to counter a throw. If you react too slowly it takes longer to recover (it actually gives your opponent frame advantage due to the fact that in a regular throw your opponent would have thrown you). As for dizzy, the mechanic still holds true because you're in a neutral state.
When mashing out of throws or dizzy the best directional command input is [dn/away, n, up/towards, n, dn/away, etc.]. This is the best command input because the game engine wants you to move from neutral; therefore, any input other than neutral is moving your character. By pressing dn/away, n, up/towards the game engine credits you with pressing all 4 directions in two motions (one straight line).
The directional input speed is much more important than the button mashing speed. The reason for this is when you're in a neutral state the point is to be able to move again (i.e. you want you're character to move in a direction). Mashing attack buttons will only do so much; they won't actually move you're character. You can confirm this by watching your character in dizzy. If you use only attack buttons no matter how fast you mash your character won't move much (sway from right to left). Using only the directional command above, your character should sway very quickly; and allowing you to escape the dizzy quickly.
Now, for the mashing you have two options. You can just use one attack button (ex. N.Ken's Knee-Bash you would only use foward); however, you do this by timing the fowards with dn/away and up/towards (requires some serious practice). Or you can use piano/mashing. For escaping holds use piano/mashing, but for dealing damage I stick with one attack timing inputs (it does make a difference).
It is possible to escape throws in 1 hit (difficult), 2 hits (moderate to easy), if your opponent hits you more than 3 times it means that you probably didn't react within the 13 frame counter limit. Same with dizzy (obviously depends on type of dizzy). This all takes steady practice.
Unfortunately, in ST there is a fair amount of randomness. Known randomness includes:
- The amount of damage done by a move (This can be extreme)
- "dizzy meter" length. i.e. "How long it takes you to become dizzy"
- The amount of dizzy damage done by a move
- The charge times for special/super moves (Can vary up to 3 frames)
- Ryu's [cr.Short->cr.Short xx super] simply won't combo half the time, even when timed perfectly.
- Gief's standing 720 (He'll just jump half the time, even when timed perfectly)
- Who gets the throw when both players input the command on the same frame.
- Getting a normal move when attempting a wake-up throw against a meaty attack.
--NKI 04:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
When playing ST, the three most important things are:
- knowing the match-ups
- being able to execute
- being able to out-smart your opponent
You can learn the match-ups by watching vids/reading strats, and you can improve your execution by practicing at home by yourself, but the only way to improve your mind games is to have lots of experience against human opponents. Experience is crucial.
Stable Strategies vs. Shenanigans
It is important to rely on stable strategies and not on shenanigans. A good example of this is the opening attack of the round in a Ryu vs. Dictator match. If Ryu starts off the round by throwing a fireball, Dic can jump at him and do [cross-up j.RH, st.Short, st.Short, st.Short xx Psycho Crusher] for the dizzy, follow up with [j.RH, st.Short, cr.Forward xx Scissor Kicks] for the win.
That is a shenanigan. It is not something that you can consistently rely on to win matches. Your opponent will (hopefully) wise up to the fact that opening the round with a fireball is a bad idea for him.
The most stable strategy for Dic would be to just simply duck-block and wait to see what the opponent does. In the absolute worst-case scenario, he simply blocks a Fierce fireball. Another stable strategy would be opening with [slight step forward, st.RH], which would stuff fireballs and Hurrican Kicks, but lose to DPs.
Also consider the Psychic DP. The Psychic DP is where your opponent does a seemingly safe, non-blatant move, and you "read your opponent's mind", countering him clean with a DP out of nowhere. That might work once in a while, but the truth of the matter is that if you aren't Daigo Umehara, you shouldn't try Psychic DPs, because it is not a stable strategy.
There are two very different schools of thought when it comes to character selection. One school of thought is basically that because the game has counter characters, you should learn more than one character in order to do well overall. Another school of thought is basically that if you just stick with one character and learn all of the match-ups inside and out, the "counter matches" will not be nearly as hard, and you won't ever need to switch characters.
I feel that relying on counter characters is a very unstable strategy. For one thing, every match is winnable, and for another thing, the numbers are overwhelming. For every one character you play, you need to know 16 match-ups, and that can take an extraordinary amount of time to learn. If you only stick with one character, say, T.Hawk, and if you just man up and learn all 16 matches, you can beat any character, even Dhalsim (as Toutanki has shown). Obviously Dhalsim still has the advantage, but it is definitely not a free win, as a lot of people would have you believe.
Playing counter characters will only work consistently against other people who also play counter characters (people who don't know their characters 100%). It will not consistently work against people who know the matches, and that is why I would not advise relying on counter characters.
I think a good example is the Japanese player Muteki Guile (whose name means "Invincible Guile"). He has unquestionably one of the best Guiles in the world, and he also plays a little bit of Chun (in casual matches). If he were to play in tourney against a Blanka player, he could try switching to Chun (who is considerably better than Guile versus Blanka), but if he wins, then his opponent could just switch it up to O.Sagat and counter-character his Chun (because Muteki Guile doesn't know Chun 100%).
But that situation will never come up for him, because he has taken the time to master Guile, and he has no need to switch to Chun. Even though Blanka vs. Guile is an uneven match, Muteki knows exactly what he can do, and that match is still totally winnable for him, even against the best Blankas.
While the advantage of counter characters is grossly over-exaggerated by a lot of players, it is true that certain characters have inherent advantages over others. Counter characters that particularly stand out:
- Chun does well against Gief
- Honda does well against non-fireball characters
- Fireball characters do well against Honda
- Sim does well against O.Sagat, Gief, Hawk, Boxer, Ryu, Ken
- O.Sagat does well against Chun, Gief, Hawk, Honda
- Blanka does well against Hawk, Guile
You should never be free-styling a match. You should know before-hand exactly what your game plan is, what advantages/disadvantages you have, and exactly what moves of yours will counter your opponent's (as well as what moves your opponent can use to counter yours).
For example, if I'm Chun playing against Dictator, I go into the match knowing that Chun can get in his face pretty well, and there's not much he can do about it. Dic has no good anti-air, so I can do j.Forward a lot; Dic has no reversal other than super, so I can do meaty D/F RH for free; lightning legs will beat his Psycho Crusher and Scissor Kicks cleanly; upkicks will lose cleanly to his headstomp, etc.
Playing to Win
If you notice that your opponent has any particular weakness, you need to show no mercy and exploit it. Common weaknesses include:
- Inability to consistently reverse throws
- Inability to consistently reverse meaties
- Wanting to use the super as soon as the meter is full
- Going for the "revenge super" after getting hit by something big
- Overaggression (ex: always going for the reversal DP)
- Panic moves (ex: throwing away the super, jumping back to the corner, or blatantly jumping at the opponent when in a really tight spot)
- Lack of knowledge (ex: opponent keeps trying to Tiger Uppercut Sim's j.Forward, not knowing that Tiger Uppercut loses cleanly)
- Patterns (ex: always doing a second Shoryuken if the first one whiffs)
Through a programming glitch, it is possible to do a move's motion, hold the last direction, and then press the button whenever you want, and the move will still come out. This works with Chun's super, Honda's super, Honda's command throw, and Claw's Flip Kick (kind of).
For Chun's super and Honda's super, charge back, then hit towards, back, then towards and hold it. As long as you're holding towards (or up/towards or down/towards), you can press the button at any time to do the super.
For Honda's command throw, do a half-circle from towards to down/back, and hold down/back. As long as you're holding down/back (or back or up/back), you can press punch at any time to do the command throw.
For Claw's Flip Kick, after you charge down/back, you can switch to back or up/back without losing your charge. (Note that you can not store the move with towards.)
Reversing Tick Throws
A "tick throw" or "tick" is when the opponent puts you in block stun or hit stun, then throws you immediately afterwards. Some characters have tick throw loops, such as Dhalsim (noogie, Short slide, repeat), and Boxer (throw, walk under cross-up meaty cr.Forward, repeat).
These are very effective techniques because the defender only has one frame of advantage. Timing anything with the precision of one frame is pretty difficult. The frame in question is the reversal frame, your first frame of neutral state. The defender can go directly into any attack (a normal move, a throw, a special move, or a super) without ever going to neutral (throwable) state. However, if the defender does not take advantage of the reversal, the attacker and the defender have equal opportunity to throw each other. (If both characters throw on the exact same frame, it is completely random who does the throw and who gets thrown.)
Because you can reverse out of hit stun and block stun, there is no reason to ever just "take the hit" on a tick attempt. Either way, you still only have one frame to reverse.
If the attacker tries to tick throw you but he is within your throw range, you can throw him for free because of that reversal frame. However, if the attacker has more throw range than you, and he is out of your throw range, you must resort to a special or super move. Every character in the game has a move that can be used to get out of tick throw attempts, however, some characters have much better options than others.
- Ryu: Dragon Punch, Hurricane Kick, super
- Ken: Dragon Punch
- Chun: upkicks, Spinning Bird Kick, super
- Guile: Flash Kick, super
- Blanka: Horizontal Ball, Vertical Ball, backwards dash, super
- Zangief: SPD, 360 K, super
- Dhalsim: Yoga Teleport
- Honda: Headbutt, Butt Slam, command throw, super
- Hawk: uppercut, Typhoon, super
- Fei Long: Flame Kick, Chicken Wing (his twist kick move), super
- Cammy: Cannon Spike, Spinning Knuckle, super
- DeeJay: Double Dread Kicks, upkicks, Machine Gun Upper, super
- Boxer: Buffalo Headbutt, super
- Claw: Backflips, Flip Kicks
- Sagat: Tiger Uppercut
- Dictator: Psycho Crusher, super
Blanka's Horizontal Ball and Vertical Ball have no invincibility, but they hit on the first frame (they have 0 frames of start-up), so they can also be used to reverse ticks, as long as the opponent is close enough so that the ball will hit on the first frame. If Blanka is too far away, he must use his back dash. Characters with command throws can also use those to reverse ticks, because command throws have large range and are also 0 frame moves. Due to a glitch in the game, Ken, Dhalsim, and Sagat can NOT use their supers for reversals.
Multi-tapping refers to hitting more than one button in an attempt to get a reversal. For example, if I simply hit F, D, D/F Fierce, I have to time my reversal with the precision of a single frame (about 1/60th of a second), and that's pretty hard. But if I do F, D, D/F press Jab~press Strong~press Fierce~release Jab~release Strong~release Fierce, I now have a SIX-FRAME window to work with, which is remarkably easier.
Multi-tapping can (and should) be used with throws as well. Don't simply hit one button if you are trying to do a reversal throw. Unless you are going for one specific throw (like Ken's knee bash) and you have extreme confidence in your reversal timing, you should use every button your character can throw with. With Chun, you should try to reversal throw with Strong~Fierce. With Ryu, you should try to reversal throw with Strong~Fierce~Forward~RH.
Option select refers to doing one thing that covers more than one possible outcome. For example, I am Honda, and my opponent is trying to do a meaty attack to me as I get up. I do a half-circle to down/back and hold it, so now I have the command throw stored. I press and hold all three punches before I get up (so that nothing comes out), and with reversal timing, I multi-release the punches. There are only two possible outcomes:
- I timed the reversal properly, and I will throw the opponent
- I did not time the reversal properly, but I will block safely because I was holding down/back
Another good example of option select is safe jumping and safe reversing...
You can time a jump-in meaty enough so that it will force the opponent to block if they don't reverse, but if they do reverse, you can land quickly enough to block their reversal. This works because there are very few moves in ST that hit on the first frame.
Safe jumps are much more practical against moves that do not have hitting frames at the very beginning. For example, it's very easy to do safe jumps against Boxer's Buffalo Charge, because the quickest version (Jab) has a window of 11 non-hitting frames in the beginning, which gives you plenty of time to land. Safe jumps are extremely hard (or impossible) against moves that have very few (or zero) frames of start-up. Don't try doing safe jumps against:
- Ken's DPs
- Blanka's upballs and horizontal balls
- Akuma's hurricane kicks and uppercuts
Safe reversal is a very useful (but very difficult) option select technique. When your opponent does a meaty to you, safe reversal allows you to attempt a reversal risk-free. For the command of the move you're attempting to do as a reversal, rather than leaving the stick in the command's final position and pushing the buttons, if you quickly move the stick to D/B and release the buttons after finishing the motion, you will block if you didn't time the reversal correctly.
For example, with Ryu, as you're getting up, hold all three punches, then do F, D, DF, D/B release Jab~release Strong~release Fierce. If you timed it correctly, you will get a DP. If you didn't time it correctly, you will block. Note that you only have a relatively small window of time to reach D/B and release the buttons, so you must be quick.
Throw For The Win
If you have the opponent's life down to where a teched throw would not kill him, but a non-teched throw would kill him, he will die regardless of if he techs or not. You will see him visually tech the throw, but he will still take full damage and die.
This also works with dizzies. If the opponent has gotten hit by a couple of moves and is at the point where a throw would dizzy him, that throw is untechable, and the dizzy is guaranteed.
Instant Jumping Overheads
Only a few characters (Ryu, Ken, Fei) have true overheads as ground moves, but some characters can also do an overhead as a jumping attack immediately after leaving the ground, at point blank range. These typically can only be done to finish the opponent, because obviously you can't block on your way down from the jump. Good jumping overheads include:
- Chun's headstomp (will beat DP clean)
- Dic's j.Forward
- Boxer's j.Short and j.Forward
Note that Dhalsim's drills, despite being jumping moves, can be duck-blocked. In fact, if angled correctly, they MUST be duck-blocked, because they can hit as a low move.
If your opponent knocks you down and goes for the cross-up, it is always possible to keep your charge. You simply need to switch the direction exactly when your opponent switches sides. It's an amazingly simple concept, but it's somewhat quirky and hard to do, so not many people utilize it. A practical example would be with Claw:
Chun is on the 2P side (right side), and she knocks down Claw and tries to go for the cross-up. Claw already had a charge (charging left) before he was knocked down. When Chun is directly overhead, Claw switches the direction of his charge from left to right, so now he's still holding back, but instead of holding left, he's now holding right. He only holds right for a split second before he gets up, then hits left (which is now towards) and RH.
This works with all charge moves (even supers), and it is especially useful for characters like Chun, Claw, and Dic whose only good reversals are horizontal charge moves.
--NKI 14:45, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
This list is a combination of tier lists provided by Kyokuji and Ouroborus on the ST forums.
Honda (Gets killed by fireballs, but does OK against 'Sim, and does well against everyone without one)
O. T. Hawk
To choose the old version of a character, first choose that character, then immediately input the corresponding code. Each of the codes consists of four directions (combinations of Up, Down, Left, or Right) followed by Jab or Fierce. If you also press Short, you will get the 2P color.
There is actually a pattern with the old character codes. For Ryu through Guile, the code is the inverse for the character below. For example, Ryu's code is RRRL, and Ken's is LLLR. This pattern is followed until you get to the four new challengers (Hawk, Fei, Cammy, DeeJay). Instead of having top/bottom inverses, they have adjacent (left/right) inverses. The top/bottom inverses begin again with the bosses.
Old Sagat is pretty much the only old character worth playing. Old Ken and Old Guile have a few advantages over their new counterparts, but overall the new versions are definitely better.
--NKI 17:16, 11 April 2006 (CDT)
Playing as Akuma
Akuma is playable as a secret character. To choose him, input the following code at the character selection screen:
- Start with the character selection cursor over Ryu or Ken. Wait a small period of time. (Three seconds should be plenty.)
- Move the cursor to T.Hawk. Wait in the same way.
- Then move the cursor to Guile. Wait a short while again.
- After that, move to Cammy. Wait.
- Finally, move the cursor back to Ryu or Ken. Wait one last time.
- At this point, you may optionally move the cursor to any character. There's no real reason to take this unnecessary step unless you're afraid you might get the code wrong and want to choose a specific backup character in such a case.
- Now press start, and then very quickly after pressing start (within about 0.3 seconds is suggested), press all 3 punch buttons simultaneously.
Since Akuma is considered an overwhelmingly-strong character, he's banned in virtually every tournament. Choosing him outside of tournaments may also be frowned upon if the games are being played with any kind of seriousness. Playing as him should be done for entertainment value only.
--Raisin (May 6, 2007)
- Balrog (Boxer) - Old character code: RLLR
- Blanka - Old character code: RLLL
- Cammy - Old character code: UUDD
- Chun-Li - Old character code: DDDU
- Dee Jay - Old character code: DDUU
- Dhalsim - Old character code: DUUU
- E. Honda - Old character code: UUUD
- Fei Long - Old character code: LLRR
- Guile - Old character code: UDDD
- Ken - Old character code: LLLR
- M. Bison (Dictator) - Old character code: DUUD
- Ryu - Old character code: RRRL
- O.Sagat - Old character code: UDDU
- T. Hawk - Old character code: RRLL
- Vega (Claw) - Old character code: LRRL
- Zangief - Old character code: LRRR
--NKI 17:16, 11 April 2006 (CDT)
This the original release of Super Turbo.
What follows is a list of ports and differences from the original arcade version.
The size of the screen is slightly off (it's a little too narrow), making the character sizes appear to be slightly too thin. Only a small amount of testing has been done, but this does not seem to affect the game in anyway as far as range of moves/hit-boxes.
There are a few other differences as well, but all of the tested and known differences can be corrected using the in-game DIP switches. For example, by default on the Dreamcast version, Ken, Dhalsim, and Sagat can do reversal supers (which they can not in the arcade version). This can be corrected in the DIP switch menu.
Playstation 2 (Hyper Street Fighter II Anniversary Edition, only the ST characters will be addressed)
This version has not been thoroughly tested, but the known differences are:
-O.Sagat's Tiger Shots have been toned down considerably
-Ken, Dhalsim, and Sagat can do reversal supers (which they can not in the arcade version)
-Due to an error in porting, Claw's wall dive (ST versions only) must be performed Charge D, K, U (pressing Kick before Up, instead of the normal order)
-if an ST character is facing a non-ST character, the ST character can not tech the throws (in ST, New characters can tech Old characters' throws)
-Holding start when selecting Super Turbo or Super seems to allow access to the original arcade versions of each character.
X-Box (Hyper Street Fighter II Anniversary Edition, only the ST characters will be addressed)
No information is known at this time.
Known differences in the PS1 version:
-Ken, Dhalsim, and Sagat can do reversal supers (which they can not in the arcade version)
-there is a slight delay between "Round 1, Fight!" and when you can actually move
-Chun Li falls extremely slowly after her medium upkicks (Short and RH are correct, though)
-Guile regains CPS1 chains
-only two buttons are required for three-button moves (ex: Zangief can do a lariat by hitting only Jab Strong or Strong Fierce or Jab Fierce)
-inputs must be done more quickly
-tapping two buttons one right after the other counts as hitting them simultaneously
-when a character has zero life left, it takes two blocked specials to kill him/her
-characters don't seem to get dizzy as easily (speculation, untested)
While the DC version's characters appear to be too small, the Saturn version's characters are too big. Again, this technically shouldn't change anything in the game, but no thorough testing has been done. One other notable difference is that Guile regained his CPS1 chains. This version is not thoroughly tested, and most likely contains more differences.
Playstation 2 / X-Box: Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2
-The custom code used in this version fixes many inaccuracies found in other common emulators such as MAME and Kawaks.
-This version was emulated from the original arcade ROM's, unlike any other version.
-Some stages are known to cause slowdown or speed changes.
-Sometimes sound effects are known to play at random times, especially the ones for special moves.
-"time warps" where the game will suddenly "jump forward in time" by about 5 to 10 frames.
-There have been many claims of input lag from a large number of arcade players, but no tests were ever completed to verify.
The most glaring problem with the 3D0 version is that the Old characters are completely missing. It also has lots of missing animation. For example, all of Zangief's ducking punches are the same animation in the 3D0 version.
Other known differences :
- All characters get CPS1 chains
- Gouki/Akuma's Red Fireball has lesser recovery and can throw another fireball again at the 2nd hit !
The PC version contained such colossal bugs as entire moves being inexplicably missing, and the game randomly crashing for no apparent reason.
Game Boy Advance
-The character sizes and animations are totally different. Way too many differences to try to list. --NKI 14:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
-Potential to crash the game (forever) if Akuma is fought. --hagure 22:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Please note that the Japanese arcade version is not the same as the American arcade version:
|Secret character = Akuma||Secret character = Gouki|
|Boxer character = Balrog||Boxer character = M.Bison|
|Claw character = Vega||Claw character = Balrog|
|Dictator character = M.Bison||Dictator character = Vega|
|Speeds are listed as Turbo 0, Turbo 1, Turbo 2, and Turbo 3.||Speeds are listed as Turbo 1, Turbo 2, Turbo 3, and Turbo 4.|
|Zangief's jump straight up up Fierce has no special properties.||Zangief's jump straight up up Fierce is practically a guaranteed dizzy.|
|Can put the game on Free Play.||Has no Free Play option.|
|No dialogue before you fight Akuma/Gouki.||Has a short dialogue before you fight Akuma/Gouki.|
|Akuma/Gouki has no endings.||Akuma/Gouki has two endings (depending on who you fought as the last boss).|
-In the arcade version, Dhalsim, Sagat, and Ken can not do reversal supers. If they successfully time a reversal super, they will simply get the last special move they did.
-After getting up from being knocked down, you are unthrowable for 13 frames.
-Old characters have the exact same walking speed as new characters.
-Not all characters get dizzied at the same rate. In order from easiest to dizzy to hardest to dizzy:
- Sim, Claw
- Guile, Cammy DeeJay
- Boxer, Blanka, Chun, Honda, Fei, Ken, Dictator, Ryu, Sagat, Hawk, Zangief
-Blanka's stage is the widest, and Claw's stage is the shortest.
-Boxer's Strong throw has more range than his Fierce throw, even though they're the same throw.
-After being knocked down, different characters get up at different speeds.
--NKI 14:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
The Yoga Book Hyper
What Is The Yoga Book Hyper...?
Simply put, The Yoga Book Hyper is the Super Turbo Bible. It contains frame data and hit boxes for every move in the game, in addition to tons of strategies, tricks, glitches, oddities, and a wealth of other information.
Included with the book is an excellent best-of-the-best tournament DVD featuring Japan's best 16 players, hand-picked by Daigo Umehara. In addition to the tourney, the DVD also features ST casuals, AE casuals, and a CD of remixed Street Fighter tracks.
Help, I can't read Japanese!!
Once you know what the numbers and different colored boxes mean, you don't really need to know Japanese in order to get a lot out of the book. You can view a translation of the basics here.
The only parts that really require Japanese are the stratagy section (the black and white section towards the end) and the interviews (the color section towards the end).
Where Can I Buy It?
If you're in Japan, you can order it directly from INH's website, or pick it up at your local gaming store. If you're outside of Japan, it can be ordered from several online stores, such as Play-Asia.
When dealing with such a massive amount of information, there are bound to be some typos and mistakes. Here is a list of the mistakes that have been caught. Most of them are very trivial, but for the sake of correctness, here is the translation:
On the DVD staff list, there is a name spelled incorrectly. 北条大吾 小島慎治 should be 北条大悟 小島真志.
On page 23, Guile's Short color is shown as yellow/gold, but it should be red.
On pages 38 and 54, the hit boxes for Zangief's and T.Hawks splashes (jumping down Fierce) are incorrect. Please see official corrections page for images.
On page 70, the name of Zangief's move is incorrectly listed as "Quick Double Lariat", when it should be "High Speed Lariat".
On page 81, the amount of meter gained for Boxer's TAP's are all listed as 7 dots. It should be:
- Level 1: 7 dots
- Level 2: 8 dots
- Level 3: 9 dots
- Level 4: 10 dots
- Level 5: 12 dots
- Level 6: 16 dots
- Level 7: 20 dots
- Final: 32 dots
On page 156, under A7(3), DeeJay's move is listed as "far Fierce", when it should be "far st.Fierce".
On page 164, under Claw's "Other: One Point Technique" section, the "Flying Barcelona Attack" is incorrectly listed as "Barcelona Attack".
On page 175, under "Moves that can juggle up to 3 times", it only lists Claw's Forward and RH flip kicks, when it should list all three (Short, Forward, and RH).
On page 185, under X-MANIA Gaiden Player Introduction, kusumondo's tournament history lists him as the winner of X-MANIA 2000, but he actually got 2nd.
On page 192, under the Daigo Umehara SPECIAL INTERVIEW, the photo cuts off a line of text. It should read ウメちゃんのストリートファイターIIX（以下：X）での強さも再認識できました。
--NKI 14:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Other ST Links
--NKI 14:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
|General||Notation | Game Mechanics | Tiers | Strategy|
|The Characters||Akuma | Balrog (Boxer) (O. Balrog) | Blanka (O. Blanka) | Cammy (O. Cammy) | Chun-Li (O. Chun-Li) | Dee Jay (O. Dee Jay) | Dhalsim (O. Dhalsim) | E. Honda (O. E. Honda) | Fei Long (O. Fei Long) | Guile (O. Guile) | Ken (O. Ken) | M. Bison (Dictator) (O. M. Bison) | Ryu (O. Ryu) | Sagat (O. Sagat) | T. Hawk (O. T. Hawk) | Vega (Claw) (O. Vega) | Zangief (O. Zangief)|