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c.HP x MK Tackle x Tyrant Slaughter
c.HP x MK Tackle x Tyrant Slaughter
Revision as of 23:19, 20 May 2007
- 1 Introduction
- 2 Moves List
- 3 Combos
- 4 Frame Data
- 5 Strategies
- 6 Match-ups
Urien is a character that relies mostly on setups, basic mixups and normal moves. His basic game is extremely straightforward and his attacks aren't that unique, but his sum is greater than it's parts. Due to Aegis Reflector he can truly shine in competitive play. If you want an extremely meter dependent character that can turn a knockdown or favorable position into something akin to slaughter, Urien is your man.
LP - Urien jabs into the air quickly, primary uses include comboing into s.MP, a quick, mediocre anti-air, hiding a charge, in mid-screen unblockable combos, a "filler" attack when going for pressure and confusing an opponent before a throw. Cancelable into: Self, MP, Special, Super
MP - Urien stretches with his right hand very far for a nice punch, solid poke, works as a decent anti-air, for resets, and stops some moves pretty clean (mostly rushing attacks). If used as anti-air, can be canceled into a tackle, headbutt or anti-air fireball to mess up would be air-parries. Combos in certain situations (into headbutts and tackles). Good all around move. Best move for wiffing to gain meter. Cancelable into: Special, Super
HP - Urien throws out a mean karate chop. Great move, unpunishable from a good range, does great stun and a lot of damage, knocks aerial opponents to the ground, stuffs a lot of good moves, a great poke to throw out, has an extremely large variety of uses, possibly Urien's best normal attack.
LK - Urien shifts his foot forward a little bit, like LP except worse in almost every way, except it doesn't whiff versus crouching opponents (in which a crouching LP would work just as well in that case). Cancels into: Special, Super
MK - Urien fully extends his right leg in a side kick, poke with great range, can be used to keep certain characters like Hugo and Q in their place. Not much use otherwise. Good to throw out there every once and a while.
HK - Urien lifts his leg torwards the sky and swings it down like an axe. Slow overhead, makes Urien back up a TINY bit, so it can be used to avoid moves in extremely limited circumstances. Two hits, knocks down in air. Not a good every day move but it's nice to throw out every once in a while. Unsafe on block, can be reversaled by certain moves (Shippu for example)
LP - Urien does a light backfist. See standing LP, can combo in a couple situations. Used primarily in the cases where standing LP would be used (and would not miss). Can combo into Tyrant Slaughter (but why would you be using that?). Cancelable into: Self, Special, Super
MP - An elbow attack that slides Urien forward, I have never found a use for this move besides keeping an opponent cornered for a few attacks and going under a few projectiles.
HP - Urien palms upward, followed by a rising elbow attack in the same motion, Basic launcher, extremely crucial to Uriens game, starts juggles. 2 hits, can be used twice in a row versus some characters, limited mid-juggle use. Cancelable into: Special, Super
LK - Used in unblockable situations and as a quick poke. A solid low attack. Great for breaking out of pressure strings. Cancelable into: Special, Super
MK - Mostly used as a good poke, pretty basic c.MK, doesn't combo, great range, stuffs lots of moves.
HK - Sweep, has AMAZING range for a sweep and fairly safe at range as well. Similar is most ways to a shoto sweep, treat it as such.
Most of Urien's jumping moves are seldom used in anything, the primary exception being jumping HK, which is a very very good move.
LP - Urien places his elbow near his thigh and holds it in place. Pathetic range, stays out his entire jump.
LK - Throws his knee forward. Slightly better range than jumping LP. Pretty much entirely useless unless you want to beat your opponent in an air-to-air fight.
MP - Urien swipes horizontally.
MK - A simple horizontal kick, good range, nothing spectacular.
HP - Urien slams slightly downward, lots of hitstun and good damage. But still worse than jumping HK in every concievable way.
HK - Has almost retarded priority, starts up pretty fast and does good damage. This is the single reason Urien will likely jump in a match. Can be used in pretty much any situation where Urien needs a safe poke. Cancelable into: SA1
LP + LK - Squeeze attack: Urien lifts the opponent by their neck and squeezes it repeatedly. Opponent can be juggled with an EX Reflector after he drops them. Mashing buttons makes it execute faster.
F/B + LP + LK - Spartan Drop: Urien lifts the opponent and drops them head first, in place. A very typical throw but it has pretty good range compared to most throws and is one of the most damaging basic throws in the game. It's also a great throw because it keeps them in a similar position, or can switch sides. So if you're cornered and land this throw, it can completely turn the tides of a match, and it allows for a lot of potential unblockables/mixups in midscreen.
F+MP - Urien does an upward punch into the air. A fair anti-air, but is easily parriable, so it's pretty unsafe. Reaches pretty far. Will wiff on a lot of grounded characters, so it's chain potential is extremely limited. Useful in some combos, for example after a crouching HP -> Tackle on Q in midscreen, you can always end a juggle with this. A good corner reset as well. Chains into F+HP
F+MK - Urien lunges forward foot first, goes over some low attacks, slow startup, decent amount of active frames. Used primarily in mid-screen unblockables and nothing more. In limited circumstances, can combo (mid-screen, c.HP, Tackle, f+MK combos vs Makoto?)
F+HP - An overhead attack, Urien swings his fist downward, does decent damage and has good speed for an overhead attack. This is Urien's primary overhead mixup.
F+MP -> F+HP
QCF+Any P - Metallic Sphere
A slow projectile that will put the opponent in a juggle state if they are airborne. Depending on the version used, the projectile launches at a different angle. Primarily used to turtle, start massive juggles or continue juggles already in progress. Can be supered through by certain "rush" supers.
LP version - No angle.
MP version - Angled upward.
HP version - Angled even further upward.
EX version - No angle, much much slower than any version, 2 hits.
Charge B, F+Any K - Chariot Tackle
Shoulder tackle that does good stun damage. Can put the opponent in the juggle state if they are in the air. The stronger the kick, the further Urien goes, and the more punishable on block it becomes. The MK version is a staple in corner combos. EX version does 2 hits, but the second hit is delayed (it's essentially 2 tackles in a row). Primarily used in juggles or punishment situations. Probably Urien's most prolific and well rounded special move. Pretty easy to see coming, so use sparingly. Unsafe on block, for example, it can be hit by c.MK xx Shippu if blocked by opponent.
Charge D, U+Any P - Dangerous Headbutt
Jumping headbutt that has lower body invulnerability, fast startup, and extremely good stun damage, knocks down on all regular version, EX version puts opponent in a juggle state, and does more stun damage. Primarily used in footsies to beat out certain moves as well as evade throws; also used in combos. Has many combos uses (as an ender in the normal version's case, used to continue juggles or stun in the EX version's case). Also used to cross opponents up in mid-screen charge partition unblockables.
Charge D, U+Any K - Violent Knee Drop
Urien jumps in the air (it looks like his normal jump), does a backflip and slams down while moving horizontally with his knees. All regular versions knock down. The K button used determines how far Urien will drop (horizontally) after jumping. EX version homes in on opponents. Uses include setting up midscreen unblockables (position based cross-up), doing a corner unblockable (actual cross-up hit), and escaping the corner. You can use LK Knee Drop to fake a corner escape, and HK to actually escape the corner, can also be used to evade and even punish projectiles.
Midscreen combos c.HP, MK Tackle
c.HP, EX Headbutt, LP Headbutt
c.HP, LP Headbutt
c.HP, EX Headbutt, MK Tackle
s.LP x s.MP x MK Tackle
s.LP x s.MP x EX Tackle
s.MP x EX Headbutt, c.HP, MK Tackle
f.MP x f.HP
c.LP x LP Headbutt
c.HP x LP Headbutt
c.HP x MK Tackle
j.HK, s.LP, s.MP, EX Tackle
j.HK x Tyrant Slaughter
c.HP x MK Tackle x Tyrant Slaughter
Standing LPx2, MP, Tyrant Slaughter
Crouching LPx2, Tyrant Slaughter
Additional Frame Data
Urien has three stages: A) No Aegis B) Aegis Stocked C) Aegis Out (And not wasted)
Your primary goal is to get to stage C. To get there, your primary goal should be to fight for space (don't get backed into a corner), meter (work your way to stage B) and a knockdown (as to safely plant an Aegis or lay down damage and get meter at a much lower risk). Learn how to play each stage of Urien properly, and focus on getting to stage C. Urien's primary strength comes from Aegis, his combos are stronger, his mixups are safer and his normals have more priority.
Super Art Selection
Super Art 1 QCFx2+P - Tyrant Punisher (Also refered to as Tyrant Slaughter)
An extremely basic super art that combos off all essential moves. Does great damage, combos easily and can be used as Uriens only real "good" reversal. Recommended for beginner Urien players.
Super Art 2 QCFx2+P - Jupiter Thunder (Also refered to as Jupitel Thunder or Temporal Thunder).
"Projectile" super art. Launches a blast of electrical energy that eventually weakens into a metallic sphere. Does decent stun damage, pretty poor at anything else. Decent in corner juggles, the closer you are to the opponent, the better it is.
Super Art 3 QCFx2+P - Aegis Reflector
Considered Urien's best Super Art, also one of, if not the most unique one in the game. Urien creates a shield that will hit 6 times, and remain near stationary once it reaches its destination, homing in very slowly. Strength of the P button determines how far it will travel. EX version moves the same distance as the LP version with an upward angle. Because projectiles must be blocked in the way they originated from, Urien can cross up the opponent and create situations where an opponent must parry/reversal their way out or eat guaranteed damage. This is an unblockable situation. Also, because an opponent will have much trouble acting if an Aegis Reflector is on top of them on wakeup, it is used to create mixup games which are near inescapable. Urien can also use the reflector to cancel a Chariot Tackle, and then do another series of Chariot Tackles into the corner. Because of the Aegis' versatility and 2 super bars, it is considered the best Super Art Urien has.
Urien has no kara techniques.
Urien's primary pokes are s.MP s.HP s.MK c.MK c.LK c.HK j.HK Most other attacks are poor pokes.
Urien has a plethora of crossups, 2 high attacks, and a large amount of unblockables, as well as setups that lead into mixups.
The most basic of such are his crouching kicks (all hit low), Universal Overhead and F+HP hitting high.
Urien is the third tallest character in the game, Q and Hugo are the only ones taller than him, because of his size, it changes a few situations slightly. (He can be reset in situations where others can't). He also cannot duck under certain things like fireballs and specific standing attacks.
Urien has an EXTREMELY fast, far dash. So fast that it's viable to dash in and throw the opponent after blocking or parrying certain moves. He can also push downed characters to the corner very quickly with it. Urien's dash can usually cross-up tech-recovering characters.
Urien has a very high defense rating, rivaled only by Alex, and beaten by Hugo and (taunted) Q.
Serious Advantage Match-ups
Twelve - Twelve is very VERY susceptible to air fireballs. If you nail one the match will quickly turn in your favor DRAMATICALLY. You can punish his HK with a parry, dash in throw. It must be stressed that an anti-air fireball in most cases mean the match for Twelve, try and land one without risking too much. This is likely Urien's best matchup.
Sean - Treat him like a normal shoto, only worse in every way :) His combo options are more limited, and his space control is worse and less threatening.
Q - s.MP stops a lot of attacks cold, including dash punches. LP headbutt will trade/reset you with most attacks (which is an advantage if you seek to escape the corner), or beat out a C&DB if you are cornered. MP Fireball can hit a standing Q when relatively close. Avoid letting Q taunt, you can walk all over him, considering Urien's speed, punishing a taunt from anything but full screen is not an issue for him, you can in most cases generate a knockdown, at least.
Hugo - MP Fireballs stop Hugos dead in their tracks. Just play it safe from a distance until you have an Aegis. Don't let his throws control the match, just be VERY safe. Remember that Headbutts beat throws 100% of the time, and a parry will seal a cr.HP in most cases.
Necro - Avoid getting cornered against Necro, one of Necro's few strengths vs Urien is his ability to do monster damage for little risk fighting a cornered Urien. His db.HP can juggle Urien multiple times, generally refilling Necro's entire super meter. Your best ground defense against Necro's pokes is to parry them and dash in for a throw. Avoid using Fireballs unless you know they will hit. Necro has few options once cornered to actually escape unlike a lot of other characters.
Alex - Just remember that Alex wants to play it safe with mixups, which actually limits his game a good amount. He is a sucker for a few specific setups too. You can reset Alex from an LP Headbutt with a well time c.LP
Remy - You can c.MP under Remy's high LoVs.
Elena - You can hit Elena with c.HP twice in a row from anywhere on the screen.
Ryu - Denjin Hadouken beats Aegis Reflectors.
Oro - If Oro ever does (Blocked) close MP, MK Chicken Kick, you can walk away from the Chicken Kick and punish with a c.HP. Oro's double jump can avoid air fireballs when timed properly. Tengu Stone will destroy Aegis Reflectors ridiculously fast.
Dudley - Dudley can fall victim to fireballs easier due to his lower jump.
Yun - Watch out for Genei-Jin, Yun is more difficult to combo in in almost all situations.
Chun-Li - You can punish some of her whiffed pokes with Chariot Tackles, but be wary if she has meter. Extremely easy to combo against. Never ever ever ever throw a fireball when Chun-Li has meter unless you cancel it, or you can safely assume she won't SA2.
Akuma - Be aware that Akuma can escape planted Aegis Reflectors by Reversal Teleporting.
Ken - Can punish Chariot Tackles extremely easily. Be extremely careful with air fireballs.
Yang - Like Yun, Yang is hard to combo against.
Makoto - Makoto has a wiiiiiide hitbox, you can hit her into a reflector behind her from a longer distance than most characters.
Serious Disadvantage Match-ups
- Personal Action: Attack up (If Taunt connects, no bonus given).
Advanced Urien Play
Things to know
Charge Partitioning - Breaking a charge into multiple parts. A simple example is simply hold down on your joystick for about 3/4 of a charge, iimmediately dash forward, immediately being holding down, and hitting Up + MP as soon as the dash ends, this will do a Dangerous Headbutt where normally not possible in other games. This specific partition is used heavily so it is recommended to practice it.
Charge Buffering Starting a charge earlier than normal, the 3S system is extremely lenient with inputs, thusly, one can actually do a move where normally not possible. This is pretty exclusively used in tackle juggles. An example: Do a c.HP, then do an MK Chariot Tackle the first moment possible, however, hit forward then back + MK and hold back again. This will begin another charge earlier than had you hit F+MK alone, making another MK tackle possible, and then another.
Aegis Reflector The Aegis Reflector is such a versatile super that it has to be explained AGAIN before you can really understand how to use it. It rivals the Genei-Jin in terms of power, and making Urien a low-mid tier character into a high-tier one.
Aegis has 4 different positions, here are the general uses for each.
PP Aegis - Executes in one frame. Meaning that if you were to activate it and a throw at the same time, EX Aegis wins in speed. Because of it's speed, it can be used in different combos, essentially, it makes Urien's UOH (Universal Overhead) viable for something outside of an already planted Aegis.
The other use is that it makes Chariot Tackles completely safe to most moves on block (Hugo's Gigas Breaker is an obvious exception to the rule, considering it starts up in one frame and is completely invulnerable) and allows you to do things like c.HK after a blocked Tackle.
LP Aegis - Has four uses, a simple planting of it for pressure in the corner, extending juggles (generally if you're 1/3 of the game screen from the corner, facing it when you begin a juggle, you will be able to do this) and simple unblockables. The simple unblockable is throw, LP Aegis, MP Headbutt to cross-up. This is EASILY escapable unless the opponent was knocked down by an another Aegis (Super knockdowns make you inable to tech roll). Also used in corner unblockables.
MP Aegis - Generally used for corner pressure, it is best to supercancel into this version.
HP Aegis - Primarily used for mid-screen unblockables
Other things to note about Aegis: It's 6 hits It has a slow homing property Can be "destroyed" with attacks hitting it, hit by hit. Some moves can be reflected, others are absorbed, Denjin Hadouken will destroy the entire reflector and persists.
What do I do with my meter?
Highly depends on situation and where you are located. If you have a downed opponent in the corner, just throw down a reflector and do low or high attack. If they are launched in the corner, you can do a corner unblockable. Corner unblockables vary from character to character. Most of them involve using Violent Knee Drop.
If you are in the middle of the screen, and get off a c.HP, you have two choices: You can go for an unblockable, or continue a corner juggle using LP Aegis. If you want to do an unblockable, you do a c.HP, LK Chariot Tackle, HP reflector, HK tackle, then, depending on the character, find a way to cross up the opponent before they rise. This is one of the most difficult things you have to learn. Most of the time, you will dash forward, then do an MP Headbutt, then f.MK them into the Aegis after dashing them inward, there are other variations to this.
If you wish to continue the aerial combo, do an LP Aegis after an LK tackle, then simple cancel into another tackle, then do another tackle/headbutt/s.HP, or after the tackle, it may be possible to get a headbutt of s.HP off.
You can also cancel a blocked tackle into an EX Aegis then try to dash forward and throw, f.HP c.HK to create a mixup.
Metallic Sphere super-cancels into Aegis, which means you can do QCF+P then do another QCF+P and get a fireball -> Reflector. This can push an enemy into a corner, this is effective if they're close to a corner but you can't get them there in time. Dashing can also push an opponent into the corner.
There are other uses for Aegis, but they are more obscure and less likely to be useful (but they can and likely will, Aegis reigns supreme in the versatility category, which means you should watch videos to learn other, random setups). Hell, sometimes you can do setups you didn't even know existed! Experiment!