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Revision as of 12:14, 14 October 2013

The safe word is OOP AW

General Info

Crouch height: High

Stand Crouch Jump Grab Run
Whip02 stand.png Whip02 crouch.png Whip02 jump.png Whip02 grab.png Whip02 run.png

Colors

Snka.gif Snkb.gif Snkc.gif Snkd.gif
Whip02 colorA.png Whip02 colorB.png Whip02 colorC.png Whip02 colorD.png

Movelist

Frames Advantage Cancel Block Hitbox Notes
Standing Close
Snka.gif 5/4/4 +5/+2 R,C,S,Su HL
Whip02 clA.png
Snkb.gif 3/3/10 -2/-4 R,C,S,Su L
Whip02 clB.png
Snkc.gif 7/5/19 -4/-6 C,S,Su HL
Whip02 clC.png
Snkd.gif 9/3/36 -11/-13 HL
Whip02 clD.png
Standing Far
Snka.gif 9/3(3)5+2/20 -13/-15 HL
Whip02 stA1.png
Whip02 stA2.png
Whip02 stA3.png
Snkb.gif 6/6/8 -2/-4 C,S,Su HL
Whip02 stB.png
Snkc.gif 13/4(11)7/30 -9/-11 HL
Whip02 stC1.png
Whip02 stC2.png
Snkd.gif 13/8/21 -9/-11 HL
Whip02 stD.png
Snkc.gif+Snkd.gif 15/7/15 KD/0 C,S,Su HL
Whip02 stCD.png
Invincible: F13~15, whole recovery
Crouching
Snka.gif 11/2/19 -1/-3 L
Whip02 crA.png
Snkb.gif 6/6/8 -2/-4 C,S,Su L
Whip02 crB.png
Snkc.gif 7/4(4)3(2)6(2)3(2)3(2)3/16 KD/-24 C,S,Su HL
Whip02 crC1.png
Whip02 crC2.png
Whip02 crC3.png
Second hit onwards does hard KD; last four hits all use third hitbox
Snkd.gif 12/4/13 K/+1 L
Whip02 crD.png
Jump
Snka.gif 5/12/- -/- H
Whip02 jA.png
Snkb.gif 5/18/- -/- S H
Whip02 jB.png
Snkc.gif 12/6+5/- -/- H
Whip02 jC1.png
Whip02 jC2.png
Snkd.gif 7/3(4)7/- -/- H
Whip02 jD1.png
Whip02 jD2.png
Snkc.gif+Snkd.gif 16/4/- KD/- HL
Whip02 jCD.png
Neutral Jump
Snka.gif 7/3+3+3/- -/- H
Whip02 juA1.png
Whip02 juA2.png
Whip02 juA3.png
Snkb.gif 5/18/- -/- S H
Whip02 jB.png
Snkc.gif 11/6/- -/- H
Whip02 juC.png
Snkd.gif 8/7/- -/- H
Whip02 juD.png
Hop
Snka.gif 5/12/- -/- H
Whip02 jA.png
Snkb.gif 5/18/- -/- H
Whip02 jB.png
Snkc.gif 12/5+5/- -/- H
Whip02 jC1.png
Whip02 jC2.png
Snkd.gif 7/3(5)8/- -/- H
Whip02 jD1.png
Whip02 jD2.png
Command Normals
f+Snka.gif
(first hit)
19/2[2]2/41 -19/-21 HL
Whip02 fA1.png
Whip02 fA2.png
Whip Shot (f+A)
  • 27 frames of hitstun, 25 frames of blockstun
  • hard knockdown on final hit
  • does large amounts of guard crush damage
f+Snka.gif
(second hit)
19/3+3/38 -16/-18 HL
f+Snka.gif
(third hit)
13/3[2]2/41 -15/-17 HL
f+Snka.gif
(fourth hit)
20/3+3/38 -16/-18 HL
f+Snka.gif
(fifth hit)
12/2[2]3/42 KD/-23 S,Su HL
Special Moves
hcb+Snka.gif
(stance)
15/-/15 -/- hcb+A -
Whip02 hcbAstance.png
Strings Shot Type A "Code: Yuuetsu" - hcb+A (can be held)
  • Whip goes into a stance if the button is held. When released, she will swing her whip forward
  • Whip can walk back and forth while in this stance
  • overhead on the second hit
  • hard knockdown on the second hit
  • supercancellable on the first hit
  • free cancellable out of on the first hit
  • Invincible: Frame 1~7. Lower body invincible Frame 8~15, complete 'stance' period, and first 5 frames of recovery.
hcb+Snka.gif
(attack)
10/4(9)5/22 KD/-9 HL*H
Whip02 HcbA1.png
Whip02 HcbA2.png
hcb+Snkb.gif
(stance)
15/-/15 -/- hcb+B -
Whip02 hcbAstance.png
Strings Shot Type B "Code: Chikara" - hcb+B (can be held)
  • Whip goes into a stance if the button is held. When released, she will swing her whip forward
  • if it hits, the opponent is pulled close to Whip, allowing her to followup with pretty much any combo
  • supercancellable on the first hit
  • free cancellable out of on the first hit
  • Invincible: Frame 1~7. Lower body invincible Frame 8~15, complete 'stance' period, and first 5 frames of recovery.
  • 40 frames of hitstun, 17 frames of blockstun
hcb+Snkb.gif
(attack)
6/4(16)3/22 +16/-7 HL
Whip02 HcbB1.png
Whip02 HcbB2.png
hcb+Snkc.gif
(stance)
15/-/15 -/- hcb+C -
Whip02 hcbAstance.png
Strings Shot Type C "Code: Shouri" - hcb+C (can be held)
  • Whip goes into a stance if the button is held. When released, she will swing her her whip along the ground, tripping the opponent
  • low attack on the second hit
  • hard knockdown on the second hit
  • supercancellable on the first hit
  • free cancellable out of on the first hit
  • Invincible: Frame 1~7. Lower body invincible Frame 8~15, complete 'stance' period, and first 5 frames of recovery.
hcb+Snkc.gif
(attack)
7/4(16)5/31 KD/-18 HL*L
Whip02 HcbC1.png
Whip02 HcbC2.png
hcf+Snka.gif 6/3(17)4/50 KD/-43 Su HL
Whip HcfA1.png
Whip HcfA2.png
Boomerang Shot "Code: SC" - hcf+P
  • Whip will perform an anti-air move that comes out fairly quickly. There are two parts - the quick reversal part and then the second hit which grabs the opponent out of the air
  • hcf+C does a reasonable amount more damage than hcf+A, but the first hit of hcf+C whiffs against most crouching opponents, except Whip, Seth, Maxima, Daimon and Chang
  • the second hit of this move has a property where it will grab always grab the opponent out of the air even if it were to break the KOF juggle system. For example, you can technically land a non-counterhit anti-air/knock back normal and then juggle with hcf+P after
  • supercancellable on the first hit
  • free cancellable out of on the first hit
  • hard knockdown on the second hit and makes the opponent get up with their back turned
  • A version: Invincible: Frame 1~2. Upper body Invincible: Frame 3~6.
  • C version: Invincible: Frame 1~4. Upper body Invincible: Frame 5~8.
  • 10 frames of blockstun
hcf+Snkc.gif 8/4(20)4/53 KD/-46 Su HL
Whip HcfC1.png
Whip HcfC2.png
j.qcb+Punch.gif 14/2+21/0 KD/-5 HL
Whip JqcbP1.png
Whip JqcbP2.png
Hook Shot "Code: Kaze" - qcb+P (air)
  • Whip will do a swinging kick while hanging on to her whip (which is tied to the ceiling)
  • Has no ground recovery time - However, after blocking the move, she can easily be hit out of the air as she's coming down. Even worse, what they hit her with will be a counterhit. There are a variety of counterhit combos that the opponent can punish Whip with in the air. For example, Clark can do Close C(1), dp+A, qcf+P to punish

dp+Snka.gif/Snkb.gif

13/13(16)16/45 KD/-43 HL*H
Whip02 DpPK1.png
Whip DpPK2.png
Assassin Strike "Code: BB" - dp+P/K
  • Whip throws her whip into the air, pulls herself up off the screen, and comes down
  • the location of where she falls is determined by the button used. A makes her drop almost exactly where she started from, B makes her land about a quarter screen from her current location, C makes her go another quarter screen, and D almost full screen
  • it is possible to crossup the opponent with this move. However, it has such horrible recovery time that it shouldn't ever be used
  • hard knockdown on the last hit when she comes down
  • free cancellable out of into qcb+P(air) when she comes down
  • this move can OTG against some characters after throwing them with her b/f+D, such as Yashiro, Mary, May Lee and Kula
  • A/B versions: Lower body invincible: Frame 1~9. Invincible: Frame 10~13.
  • C/D versions: Lower body invincible: Frame 1~12. Invincible: Frame 13~18.
dp+Snkc.gif/Snkd.gif 18/13(16)16/47 KD/-45 HL*H

rdp+Snka.gif

27+5/7/5+39 KD/-40 L
Whip02 RdpA.png
Desert Eagle - rdp+P, tap P rapidly
  • Whip takes out her gun and shoots at the ground. rdp+C shoots further than rdp+A
  • hits low
  • this move has the ability to hit an opponent on the ground. It is best used after a throw. rdp+C might miss after a throw, so use rdp+A instead
  • Whip starts with a random number of bullets in her gun, up to a maximum of 7. When she has wasted all of her bullets, she will reload on her next use of the move, resulting in very long recovery time
  • it is possible to combo with this move multiple times, by tapping P. It's fairly risky to do this though since you can easily run out of bullets, getting yourself killed when she starts to reload her gun
  • framedata of repeated shots: 5/7/5 (A version), 9/7/4 (C version)
rdp+Snka.gif
(reload)
7/-/111 -/- -

rdp+Snkc.gif

24+9/7/4+52 KD/-52 L
Whip02 RdpC.png
rdp+Snkc.gif
(reload)
7/-/124 -/- -
DM
qcb,hcf+Snka.gif 5/2(7)3(8)2(11)2[(11)2(11)2]/62 KD/-85 HL
Whip02 qcbhcfP1.png
Whip02 qcbhcfP2.png
Sonic Slaughter "Code: KW" (qcb,hcf+P)
  • Whip goes into a stance at startup. If the opponent was in the vicinity of that stance, they will be sucked into a series of whip lashes that knocks the opponent away
  • the startup of this move is completely invincible, making for one of the best anti-airs in the game
  • if the first hit of qcb hcf+P misses, the other hits do no damage and do not suck the opponent into the DM. This means that if she does do the DM and it whiffs on the first hit, the opponent can fearlessly run into her while she's still swinging her whip, without getting hurt and punish her badly
  • A version: Invincible first 9 frames
  • C version: Invincible first 11 frames
  • The portion of the active period in brackets only comes out if the first hit whiffs.
qcb,hcf+Snkc.gif 6/3(7)3(8)2(11)2[(11)2(11)2]/62 KD/-85 HL
Whip02 qcbhcfP3.png
Whip02 qcbhcfP4.png
SDM
qcb,hcf+Snka.gif+Snkc.gif 8/3(7)3(8)2(11)2[(11)2(11)2]/62 KD/-85 HL
Whip02 qcbhcfAC1.png
Whip02 qcbhcfAC2.png
Sonic Slaughter "Code: KW" (qcb,hcf+AC)
  • same properties as the DM version, but more damage
  • Invincible first 13 frames
  • The portion of the active period in brackets only comes out if the first hit whiffs.
Whip02 qcbhcfP3.png
Whip02 qcbhcfP4.png
HSDM
b,Snkb.gif,Snkc.gif, b,Snkc.gif 44+5/6/73 KD/KD -
Whip02 HSDM.png
Super Black Hawk - b,B,C,b,C
  • Whip pulls out her gun, yells "Game over" and fires it
  • the gunshot is unblockable and goes full screen length. It can be rolled, or jumped
  • she is invincible during the entire move, except to throw
  • if you run up right beside her, the gunshot will whiff

Notes

  • cancellable normals are close A, close B, far B, crouch B, close C, crouch C, close D, far D, jump B
  • whiff cancellable normals are crouch B, close C, crouch C, close D, far D
  • CD is cancellable into command moves, specials and DMs
  • free cancellable into moves are hcf+P, hcb+P/B, dp+P/K and qcb+P(air)
  • free cancellable out-of moves are f+Ax4 on all hits, dp+P/K on the last hit, hcf+P on the first hit and hcb+P/B on the first hit
  • close B and crouch A are low attacks
  • close A whiffs against low crouching opponents like Iori, Chin, Choi, Athena, etc
  • C and D throws are both back-turned hard knockdowns

Combos

Anywhere:
1. (hcb+B), Close BB, ~Close A(must be very close to connect), Crouch B, hcf+C/qcb hcf+P - 35%/45%
2. (hcb+B), Close D, f+Ax5, hcf+A - 40%
3. (hcb+B), Close C/Crouch C(1), hcf+P - 35%
4. (hcb+B), Close C/Crouch C(1), qcb hcf+P - 50%
5. f+C/D throw, rdp+A - 20%
6. CD/Jump CD, hcf+A - 25%
7. Crouch C(opponent in air), hcf+A - 20%
8. f+D throw, immediately dp+A - 30% (Mary, Kula, Yashiro, Orochi Yashiro, May Lee)

Corner:
1. (Opponent in corner, Whip full screen away) qcb+A(air), CD, hcf+A(switched sides) - 38%

Counterhit:
1. Jump CD(counterhit), CD, hcf+A - 40% (Corner)
2. CD(counterhit), hcf+A - 33% (Corner)

Maxmode:
1. (hcb+B), Crouch C(1), BC, Crouch C(1), qcb hcf+AC - 55%
2. (hcb+B), Crouch C(1), BC, Crouch C(1), hcf+C, (S)qcb hcf+AC - 65%
3. (hcb+B), Crouch C(1), BC, Crouch C(1), hcf+C, (C)hcb+A(hold for split second and release), (C)hcf+C, (C)hcb+B, walk backwards slightly, Far C(1), (C)hcb+B, Close D, f+Ax5, hcf+A - 85% (Corner)
4. (hcb+B), CD(counterhit), BC, hcf+A, (C)hcb+A(hold for split second and release), (C)hcf+C, (C)hcb+B, Close BB, ~Close A, Crouch B, qcb hcf+AC - 80% (Corner)

Strategies

-Whip's main offensive comes from her jump attacks, which are some of the best in the game. Her jump CD is very high priority. Her forward jump C is a great crossup attack especially when done early off a jumpin, since it acts as an instant overhead and very ambigious as to which direction to block. This can be abused by repeatedly hyper hopping over the opponent with jump C, which is very difficult to counter. Her jump D is fairly high priority and is two hits, and thus even if it is done early during a jump, it is still possible to combo after it with a close B. Mixing up jump crossup C and jump D with her close B (which hits low) gives her a good high/low game

-Her jumpins can also be used very defensively as well. Her vertical high jump A and C are great for intercepting jumpins as they have huge horizontal and vertical range. Jump A has less horizontal range but hits opponents above her as well

-Whip has one of the best standing CDs in the game, due to it's invincibility. This invincibility should not be overlooked. From testing, it is able to ALWAYS counterhit any counterattack on wakeup that does not have invincibility. This includes all rush DMs, and dp moves. Against moves with invincibility, if timed and spaced correctly, it can still win, or in the usual case, the stand CD and the invincible wakeup move will whiff. However, Whip is able to block immediately after her invincibility from the move is gone, which means if both moves whiff, she can still block and punish. This works against Ryo's dp+A and Athena's hcbx2+P, although it is suggested that you keep maximum distance from the opponent when fighting against those moves.

Of course, if the opponent knows that a move with invinciblity will beat the CD, you could try baiting them into doing the move by purposely mistiming your CD attack such that it whiffs just as they get up. This may trick a good player into reacting to the CD on wakeup, and since you will be blocking, you will have the opportunity to punish. Of course, this "trick" works as a general strategy for any character, but it works especially good with Whip if the opponent is aware of how good her CD attack is. Make sure to keep your distance with this move when fighting grapplers, as you can still be thrown out of it if close.

The stand CD is best used as an attack on the opponent's wakeup, but it can also be used as a ranged poke, as well as after a jumpin (although it would be recommended that the jump attack does not hit too deep, so that the stand CD is spaced). Cancel any CD that hits as an anti-air, into hcf+A which combos. Using it as a poke totally destroys Billy because it is able to hit him out of his crouch A, f+A and hcf+P with ease, and Whip doesn't even have to be anywhere near Billy.

Assuming the opponent is not careful when fighting Whip (or just doesn't know about the stand CD invincibility), she will almost always counterhit the opponent. It is possible to combo hcf+A after a counterhit CD, and it is not required that you actually cancel the stand CD into hcf+A (but rather, do hcf+A as soon as she recovers from stand CD). Supercancelling the hcf+A to DM will also connect. Cancelling the CD into maxmode and going for her corner maxmode juggle combo also works. If the opponent is being very careful against her stand CD, then you can create more mindgames by throwing on the opponent's wakeup instead of doing the CD. In addition, if the opponent rolls forward, through the CD, Whip recovers first and is able to throw the opponent.

Her stand CD can also avoid a variety of counters. CD counters will sometimes whiff, depending on who the character is that's doing the counter. May Lee's hcb+K counter also whiffs on the first hit, and be blockable on the other hits (allowing you to roll out during the counter, and combo her). If Yamazaki does hcf+K to counter the CD, Whip can actually hit him with a qcb hcf+P or hcf+C, while he is in the process of executing his uppercut punch. It does not seem possible to evade Billy's counters though.


Matchup Information

Yamazaki

  • Baiting Yamazaki's hcf+K counter

Like most characters, Yamazaki can't do much of anything about Whip's well spaced on his wakeup. You can try to be predictable with it to make Yama want to use his hcf+K counter. Since Whip's stand CD has full invincibility on recovery, she will be able to hit Yama in the middle of his hcf+K using hcf+P or qcb hcf+P, though it must be done immediately after recovering from stand CD.